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Burl Ives
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Burled, PRC
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 Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:32 pm Post subject: Visa-ed out of a job? |
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The boy doing the hiring told me to go get a tourist visa.
It's a big school, with a reputation, and I suppose it's
good, the reputation, thought this idiot shouldn't be
advising anyone on how to tie shoelaces, and that's
what he said. Tourist visa, not shoelaces.
So... I know my resident's permit will expire before this
idiot gets the contract together and I've got my reasons
for wanting to go to this big school in Zhejiang so I want
to work around this idiot's fumblings. I suppose I should
go to Hong Kong and wait out the five or six day gap between
the permit's quiet expiration and the contract's resounding
arrival. I suppose I should do that, as the only way of
being legal, now and in the future. So... how should this
idiot send the invitation letter to me so that I can get
the new Z visa in HK? I can't rustle up a private address
in time -- I've got nine days and I'm low on dough -- and
I don't even know if this hao ma fan de is the way to go.
Any suggestions? |
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Burl Ives
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Posts: 226
Location: Burled, PRC
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Sunaru wrote: |
| Post office box in HK? |
So simple, and yet so wise. How I manage to ignore the obvious is,
I dunno -- mabye it's a survival trait gone wrong.  Poste restante,
too, I suppose.
Another foolishly detailed question:
Is there such a thing as an invitation faxed to a post office and later
accepted by a government office? Or faxed direct to a government
office?
I suppose it is a government office that handles the Z visa, or can it
be a travel service?
(I used to be capable and wise, but after my third birthday things just
started going off on a tangent.) |
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Burl Ives
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Burled, PRC
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:14 am Post subject: |
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By the way, *can* a tourist visa from Hong Kong be legally changed
to a work visa? I've heard so many conflicting accounts I can't tell my
elbow from the sharpest bulb in the deck. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Posts: 9138
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:48 am Post subject: |
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As for your visa expiry, you have two options:
- Get an extension for your tourist visa (usually 30 days first time);
there is one very important PROVISO: You must stay at a PSB-
approved place, normally a guesthouse or hotel (to be in compliance
with requirements of issueing a tourist visa!); ask your waiban if
the PSB would give you an extension while you stay at their
address (maybe, maybe not!);
- if you do go to Hong Kong, the best address is:
........(your name)
General Post Office, Poste restante
Connaught Road,
Central
Hong Kong SAR
This post office is about 3 kms from the Visa Section in the
China Resources building, Harbour Rd., Wanchai (I forgot the street number, it is one block up south from the Wanchai Star Ferry pier.
I can recommend a GUESTHOUSE in the area, complete with a fax number; the room rate would be a minimum of 200 HK dollars but you get your fax with no further ado! PM me if you need it!
Good luck
Roger |
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Burl Ives
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Posts: 226
Location: Burled, PRC
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Roger wrote: |
As for your visa expiry, you have two options:
- Get an extension for your tourist visa (usually 30 days first time);
there is one very important PROVISO: You must stay at a PSB-
approved place, normally a guesthouse or hotel (to be in compliance
with requirements of issueing a tourist visa!); ask your waiban if
the PSB would give you an extension while you stay at their
address (maybe, maybe not!);
Roger |
Thanks for the poste restante address!
What I absolutely need right now is this information: can I go *legally*
from a PRC issued Z visa to a HK issued L visa and then, given a new
job and invitation letter, to a new PRC Z visa?
I should be clearer. After a semester of the standard ups and downs
in my present job, the whole foreign affairs office has gone from cold
to positively angry. My contract is finished, there is no more relationship,
I am told, and day-after-tomorrow, I'm told, there will be police on "my"
doorstep to evict me.
I've got a new job lined up but the admin there is incompetent and, for
various reasons, powerless to do anything. If I can take a holiday on
an L visa for about two weeks and then return newly and legally z
visa-ed, then I'll take chuck out of dodge and down to honkers five
minutes from now.
Can a tourist visa legally precede a z visa, assuming an invitation letter
and contract and all the other z visa crap?
And I just thought of this: if I go to HK and get an L visa, then go
wandering, and then want a legal z visa, I bet, if anything, it needs
another trip to HK, right?
(ps. It's times like these that solidarity among the local foreign teachers
turns to sympathy and f u c k . a l l . e l s e. Anybody else see that
again and again? Going on three years, I should be used to it, but it
continues to disappoint.) |
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FAQ China
Joined: 31 May 2003
Posts: 53
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:58 am Post subject: visa office address |
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Visa office:
5/F, Lower Block, China Resources Building, 26 Harbour Road, Wan Chai district. |
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Minhang Oz
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 610
Location: Shanghai,ex Guilin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:59 am Post subject: |
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BURL IVES asked: [Yeah, and I'm Waylon Jennings]
Can a tourist visa legally precede a z visa, assuming an invitation letter
and contract and all the other z visa crap?
Well, it did in my case, but that doesn't mean it does as a rule...depends on your FAO's relationship with the PSB I guess.
My invitation letter etc. were sent to me in Australia by SURFACE mail, in one of our beautiful FAO office assistant's less lucid moments. I had to leave well before they finally arrived, and offered them the choice of either solving the problem here in Shanghai, paying for my Hong Kong sidetrip, or having their new recruit find a more accommodating employer.
They chose the first: it probably cost them, but it didn't cost me. |
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