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Finding work in Russia with just a CELTA

 
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teacherpunk



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Finding work in Russia with just a CELTA Reply with quote

I have three years undergrad work completed in philosophy. I'll be getting my CELTA in October, and was hoping that I could at least find some entry level teaching work in Russia afterwards.

I would also like to finish my undergrad work abroad if that's a possibility, whether it's through a Russian U, or distance learning, or even getting undergrad credits for teaching.

If anyone can help with what schools would be most likely to hire me with just the CELTA it'd be greatly appreciated. As would any other words of wisdom, advice, or guidance anyone can give me.

Thanks
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to belabour the obvious again. BKC and Language Link are always hiring.

That's not a recommendation, just a fact. Wink
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teacherpunk



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ctech. I've actually already been recruited by BKC, haven't heard from Language Link yet. I've also had two other offers for interviews, dependent on me actually being in Moscow, and multiple requests for private lessons.

I might stay here one more year and finish my B.A.; dependent on my finaid award status, but it looks like if I decide to go before finishing the B.A. I won't have any problem finding work. I'll just have to get myself there, or depend on a school like BKC whose wages seem low, but offer the help with visa and travel, which might make the transition easier.
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maruss



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: B.K.C. Reply with quote

If I were you,I'd buy a visa invitation and visa myself and then agree to work for B.K.C. on an hourly basis, rather than on contract as it will be much more profitable and you can also leave easily and get work elsewhere that way!.Although they will offer you some kind of accomodation,usually shared if you are on contract,I would not accept it as not only is this not a good way to live but it will probably be of dubious quality and in an even more dubious neighbourhood!
By the way, have you considered yet where you will be living in Moscow because this is a major hurdle unless you already know someone who can help you, preferably Russian?Otherwise you need a couple of thousand$ up-front if you use an agency.
This is just friendly advice from someone who has already been there and done it!

M.
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teacherpunk



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I were you,I'd buy a visa invitation and visa myself and then agree to work for B.K.C. on an hourly basis, rather than on contract as it will be much more profitable and you can also leave easily and get work elsewhere that way!.Although they will offer you some kind of accomodation,usually shared if you are on contract,I would not accept it as not only is this not a good way to live but it will probably be of dubious quality and in an even more dubious neighbourhood!
By the way, have you considered yet where you will be living in Moscow because this is a major hurdle unless you already know someone who can help you, preferably Russian?Otherwise you need a couple of thousand$ up-front if you use an agency.
This is just friendly advice from someone who has already been there and done it!

M.



Thanks. I am kind of hesitant to sign into anything long term, and if i do stay here one more year to finish my B.A. I'll be even more hesitant; more qualifications = better pay and more options I'm hoping.

Not sure what I'm going to do yet for housing. I'm trying to make some contacts before I leave, and am now on expat.ru trying to get the low-down on that sort of thing. Hopefully I'll have made enough friends and contacts before I leave that I'll have sufficient help with the transition, and translation.

I'm not yet familar enough with the city itself to know what neighborhoods are good and bad. I have heard that the closer you get to the center the better the neighborhood, but also the more expensive the flats. It'd be nice to find a place that's relatively inexpensive, in a good spot, and near a metro station. As long as I'm not in a really bad neighborhood though I should be ok.
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maruss



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely sort out your accomodation before you arrive and yes, it is definitely very expensive anywhere even near the centre, let alone in it nowadays!!
Few neighbourhoods in Moscow can be called even 'reasonable' in appearance by our standards so don't be too choosy!
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: B.K.C. Reply with quote

maruss wrote:
work for B.K.C. on an hourly basis, rather than on contract as it will be much more profitable

No it's not. BKC's hourly rate is lousy and hourly paid teachers have no guaranteed work. Most people working hourly at BKC are married to/living with spouses/friends and don't need accommodation and visa support. If you're going to go to the hassle of getting your own accommodation you should teach privates and make some real money.

teacherpunk wrote:
It'd be nice to find a place that's relatively inexpensive, in a good spot, and near a metro station

No such place exists in Moscow, or in any other city of its size for that matter.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No it's not. BKC's hourly rate is lousy and hourly paid teachers have no guaranteed work. Most people working hourly at BKC are married to/living with spouses/friends and don't need accommodation and visa support. If you're going to go to the hassle of getting your own accommodation you should teach privates and make some real money.


planning on it, and already have some people interested in private lessons, dependent of course on me actually being there. i'm probably going to also get a real job with a school as well, but since i'm probably going to be finishing my ba i will be somewhat picky as to which school i work for.

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No such place exists in Moscow, or in any other city of its size for that matter.


well, you don't exactly know what my definition of 'in a good spot' is so i wouldn't jump to conclusions on that one. in a good spot for me is basically someplace that will result in me being able to walk out my front door without getting mugged or shot. otherwise i'm good. in a good spot for me doesn't mean i need to be in the lap of luxury or any such thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite what a lot of people think, there is really no part of Moscow which is overtly dangerous by US standards, except perhaps if you're non-white in which case you might want to be more careful. So I guess a "good spot" for you is really the whole city.

Anyway, you are not going to find a place which is "relatively inexpensive" and also close to a metro station. These are mutually exclusive.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway, you are not going to find a place which is "relatively inexpensive" and also close to a metro station. These are mutually exclusive.


well what am i looking at paying for something within walking distance from a metro? doesn't have to be a good neighborhood. doesn't have to be a great apartment either, just something cozy and warm in the winters.
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