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School in leafy, clean, mid-sized town?
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MartyQ



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: School in leafy, clean, mid-sized town? Reply with quote

Hello,

Can anyone recommend a university in a mid-sized city (about 3 million people?) with good day-hiking nearby and relatively low pollution? I am new to teaching abroad and hope this is realistic for China.

In general, is it a good plan to find the school you like and then apply directly to them? It's my impression that most schools are always looking for people - is this true? If not, is it best to go through a placement agency?

Thanks for your help,
Marty
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zhuhai.
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Fortigurn



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought there weren't any 'clean, leafy, mid-sized' towns left in China.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The uni in my city are looking for 2 new teachers for next term. I have heard no problems from the current teachers which is always a good sign.

Our city, Panzhihua in Sichuan, has a population of about 1 million. We are surrounded by mountains, good for hiking. The city itself has nearly everything one would need, bars, clubs, western places to eat... There is a KFC but no maccy D's. Electronic goods can be expensive here but everything else is about average. We are 2 hours on a plane from Chengdu, and about 12 hours on the train.

All in all, I love it here. Not too big, not too small. I just hate all the spicy food everywhere.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: School in leafy, clean, mid-sized town? Reply with quote

MartyQ wrote:
Hello,

Can anyone recommend a university in a mid-sized city (about 3 million people?) with good day-hiking nearby and relatively low pollution? I am new to teaching abroad and hope this is realistic for China.

In general, is it a good plan to find the school you like and then apply directly to them? It's my impression that most schools are always looking for people - is this true? If not, is it best to go through a placement agency?

Thanks for your help,
Marty

zhengzhou is actually quite leafy this time of year. lots of roads that are completely covered over by large trees. great if you want to stay in the shade. this is probably the best thing about zhengzhou in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qingdao is the right size and low pollution, but may not much as far as any day-hiking.

I would highly recommend finding a school and contacting them directly rather than using a placement agency or a recuiter. Saves time and money and is much less of a hassle. Plus you get all the information you need directly from the school, and you can better negotiate the contract.

Public schools and universities are usually looking for teachers before the school semester begins in the fall, or perhaps the spring semester in February.

Good luck,

AB
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzhou is all that and off parole. I don't know how many uni's they have there, but i liked the city, and (for China) its pretty leafy and clean, especially in the city center.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zhengzhou is actually quite leafy this time of year. lots of roads that are completely covered over by large trees. great if you want to stay in the shade. this is probably the best thing about zhengzhou in my opinion.


My students said the best thing about Zhengzhou was its fantastic transport system - plane, bus and train services to everwhere. This meant that the second they graduated, they could get the hell away from there as fast as possible.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony lee wrote:
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zhengzhou is actually quite leafy this time of year. lots of roads that are completely covered over by large trees. great if you want to stay in the shade. this is probably the best thing about zhengzhou in my opinion.


My students said the best thing about Zhengzhou was its fantastic transport system - plane, bus and train services to everwhere. This meant that the second they graduated, they could get the hell away from there as fast as possible.

Tony

the main train lines intersect here in zhengzhou. so its a hub of transport activity. not much more to recommend the place tho..... its rather central but not close to anything spectacular in china.
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MartyQ



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amandabarrick wrote:
Qingdao is the right size and low pollution, but may not much as far as any day-hiking.

I would highly recommend finding a school and contacting them directly rather than using a placement agency or a recuiter. Saves time and money and is much less of a hassle. Plus you get all the information you need directly from the school, and you can better negotiate the contract.

Public schools and universities are usually looking for teachers before the school semester begins in the fall, or perhaps the spring semester in February.

Good luck,

AB


Thanks for the advice. When you say that schools are looking for teachers before the school semester begins in the fall, do you mean that they don't start hiring until July or August? Is now too early to begin inquiring about positions?
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amandabarrick



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the past I have found a school in May and June, but didn't sign the contract until August for some reason. Never had any problems but everyone's experience is different.

--AB
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2 over lee



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the criteria given, may I suggest Wellington, NZ.

leafy and clean don't seem to sit well in a sentence with P.R.C. and city,
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 over lee wrote:
With the criteria given, may I suggest Wellington, NZ.

leafy and clean don't seem to sit well in a sentence with P.R.C. and city,


I was going to suggest Dalian... I am hopefully going there next year... was very impressed on my visit for the interview. It feels like a cross between how I imagine Japanese cities to look and an English coastal town. Quite different to Wuhan!
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2 over lee



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jammish and Op.

I'm a big fan of Dalian, with its nifty sky-scrapers, green hills with freely growing 'leaf' and its OK beaches.
As said it has quite a Japanese or even Korean feel--and if you squint a bit a Russian spot or two.

The shopping is good, food's good, girl's are good. A little windy in winter mind and the job scene not fantastic--but exceptions, exceptions...

I would be interested to know who you interviewed with Jammish.

I worked for a couple of places there--one really great the other hmmm not so great.
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pandasteak



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, come check dalian.

Gaoerji Lu is pretty leafy.

(we're not talking code-word leafy, as in cannibus-leafy are we?)
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