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k06351000
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: Summer work Japan |
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I am a university student with experience teaching English in China and Slovakia. I have three months off next summer and was hoping to use this time to experience working in a different country. I was wondering if it is possible to find short term work in an English language summer camp or summer school in Japan?
I have found one website that looks promising http://www.asij.ac.jp/page.aspx?pid=2336
I would love to get any insight people have to share.
Would I be better off focusing on any other Asian countries? |
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RM1983
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| I wouldve told you no but you have already found one link. My instincts tell me that there will be that one you have already found and that will be about it |
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Rooster.
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Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Who knows how many people apply, especially since it's Tokyo.
Most companies don't want to spend time with visa paperwork for only a few months so it could be difficult. |
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rtm
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Summer work Japan |
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| k06351000 wrote: |
| I am a university student with experience teaching English in China and Slovakia. I have three months off next summer and was hoping to use this time to experience working in a different country. I was wondering if it is possible to find short term work in an English language summer camp or summer school in Japan? |
I haven't heard of summer camps being popular in Japan. Like has been said, it would likely not be worth it for the employer to do all the visa paperwork for just a short term like that. Also, your lack of a degree might make it more difficult for any positions that do exist. I've heard of these things a lot in China, but not so much in Japan. |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Rooster. wrote: |
| Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Who knows how many people apply, especially since it's Tokyo. |
Rooster,
Are you the guy that went from Korea - Taiwan - Japan?
You're in the Osaka area now, right?
Still at an eikaiwa? |
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Maitoshi
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Location: 何処でも
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| I have seen a few of these posted at uni, but they don't sponsor visas as far as I know. Thought about doing one for the extra money and change of scene, but had already made plans to attend a conference during that time. |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Maitoshi wrote: |
| I have seen a few of these posted at uni |
what would be the rate for an hour of teaching during a summer course? Also, if you are a permanent, regular teacher, how would you be paid in addition to your monthly salary?
I think a lot of these summer courses are probably taught by Westgate, Interac and Berlitz, etc.
Summer courses are very popular in Korea but seldom mentioned in Japan. Korea is English crazy, though. |
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rxk22
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| From what I've seen Korea has it's crap together English wise. Japan's programs are scatter brained and honestly for actual learning nonsensical is JET ALT and eikaiwas |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| rxk22 wrote: |
| Japan's programs are scatter brained and honestly for actual learning nonsensical is JET ALT and eikaiwas |
What do you mean by the last part about JET ALT and eikaiwa?
Does anyone know the numbers for EFL teachers in Japan vs Korea? I've heard that there are about 20,000 - 30,000 EFL teachers in Korea. Many are Canadians.
I bet there aren't even 1,000 Canadians teaching EFL in Japan.
Is the EFL market smaller in Japan? |
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Maitoshi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
| Maitoshi wrote: |
| I have seen a few of these posted at uni |
what would be the rate for an hour of teaching during a summer course? Also, if you are a permanent, regular teacher, how would you be paid in addition to your monthly salary?
I think a lot of these summer courses are probably taught by Westgate, Interac and Berlitz, etc.
Summer courses are very popular in Korea but seldom mentioned in Japan. Korea is English crazy, though. |
I don't recall the posted rates, but it wasn't stated by hour if I remember correctly. I think it was by course or session. If you were a FT instructor there, it would likely be in addition to your regular pay, but this could depend on your position with the uni. For contract lecturers, some of those "other duties," as specified by the program or department might be rather loosely interpreted to include such assignments. |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| Maitoshi wrote: |
If you were a FT instructor there, it would likely be in addition to your regular pay, but this could depend on your position with the uni.
For contract lecturers, some of those "other duties," as specified by the program or department might be rather loosely interpreted to include such assignments. |
For full time, regular, permanent teachers they probably would not have to teach summer or winter classes. Most probably would not even want to teach during the breaks.
Contract instructors, however, might have to agree to teach for a 3 week session during the winter or summer breaks.
Japan can be confusing, because you have people come on here and say, "Yeah, I taught a summer session and was paid x-number of dollars" etc., but we don't know what kind of teacher they are.
So when people come on here and say that they earned this or had to teach this and that, I first would like to know what kind of teacher they are - Interac / Westgate, Contract or a regular, permanent teacher.
There's a big difference between these types of teachers in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and paid vacations, benefits and duties. |
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Maitoshi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
| Maitoshi wrote: |
If you were a FT instructor there, it would likely be in addition to your regular pay, but this could depend on your position with the uni.
For contract lecturers, some of those "other duties," as specified by the program or department might be rather loosely interpreted to include such assignments. |
For full time, regular, permanent teachers they probably would not have to teach summer or winter classes. Most probably would not even want to teach during the breaks.
Contract instructors, however, might have to agree to teach for a 3 week session during the winter or summer breaks.
Japan can be confusing, because you have people come on here and say, "Yeah, I taught a summer session and was paid x-number of dollars" etc., but we don't know what kind of teacher they are.
So when people come on here and say that they earned this or had to teach this and that, I first would like to know what kind of teacher they are - Interac / Westgate, Contract or a regular, permanent teacher.
There's a big difference between these types of teachers in terms of compensation, benefits, hours and paid vacations, benefits and duties. |
So very true! Additionally, some institutions won't even tell you the rate of pay until you're already signing paperwork. These postings include verbiage like "remuneration in accordance with university policy." |
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rxk22
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
| rxk22 wrote: |
| Japan's programs are scatter brained and honestly for actual learning nonsensical is JET ALT and eikaiwas |
What do you mean by the last part about JET ALT and eikaiwa?
Does anyone know the numbers for EFL teachers in Japan vs Korea? I've heard that there are about 20,000 - 30,000 EFL teachers in Korea. Many are Canadians.
I bet there aren't even 1,000 Canadians teaching EFL in Japan.
Is the EFL market smaller in Japan? |
Sorry cell phone autocorrect got me again. ie JET, ALTS and Eikaiwas. By that I mean, their goals are not to teach English, but t entertain, and to be a new face for the school. The priority for actual teaching is incredibly low, or if it is there at all, I don't really see it.
While, it seems other countries have decent programs in which to teach English. Japan, with JET, just brings in new and inexperienced people constantly. This creates a revolving door situation, where experience and knowledge play a second fiddle to being new. ALTs and Eikaiwas have the same situation/policy
Even summer camps here are pretty rare. They mostly are just an all day babysitting course, done by English speakers. No real immersion, or anything of note. |
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Rooster.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
| Rooster. wrote: |
| Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Who knows how many people apply, especially since it's Tokyo. |
Rooster,
Are you the guy that went from Korea - Taiwan - Japan?
You're in the Osaka area now, right?
Still at an eikaiwa? |
No, that's not me. I don' know if it's his board or another, but there are other similarly named posters who utilize "rooster" and teach/taught in Japan. |
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rtm
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Rooster. wrote: |
| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
Are you the guy that went from Korea - Taiwan - Japan?
You're in the Osaka area now, right?
Still at an eikaiwa? |
No, that's not me. I don' know if it's his board or another, but there are other similarly named posters who utilize "rooster" and teach/taught in Japan. |
I believe that was Rooster_2006. |
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