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Girl Scout



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Public & Private Uni Affiliation Reply with quote

This is almost stupid, but I have to ask (share). My school recently announced they were seperating from the major university they are affiliated with because of a new regulation that states large public universities can no long be aligned with smaller private colleges.

Is my school handing the students a line of bullsh$t?
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very much doubt it. During this recent year the government has taken steps to have more control of all the 'lower education' schools in China. I am not aware that unviversities are in the same boat, but the pattern fits.
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Sad But True Reply with quote

This also happened to a private university affiliated with a public university where I used to work. Effectively, this meant that the students were no longer awarded a degree that had the parent university's name on it. Probably this had something to do with not wanting to see the strength of the parent university's degrees diluted. Ironically, the main result of this seems to have been that the parent university no longer cared quite as much about the quality of education at a private institution whose students no longer carried degrees with its name. So the practical effect of a government policy stemming from concerns about the profit-making private affiliates of public universities may actually be to promote the development of more degree mills!
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stil



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has also just happened in the city I'm in. A public senoir middle school here built another campus to house a private junior middle school. As of next term they may not have ties with a private institution and so the junior middle school is moving.
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Girl Scout



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things have turned ugly here. The students had a riot on Thurs. and have been in the streets protesting ever since. Today they are refusing to attend their final exams.
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of a few incidents like this across China. If they don't put a cap on it soon there may very well be another Tiananmen like clash.
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ymmv



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Shengda College Riot Reply with quote

The riot at Shengda College, Zhengzhou is on CNN now:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/06/19/china.studentriot.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to side with the students on this one. That's a pretty dirty thing to do. They took their money for three years, and then changed the deal. I can understand a good school wanting to distance itself from the idiots we read about everyday on this forum, but not in this way. Would it hurt them so much to grandfather the degrees for the students who signed up three years ago?
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject: Grandfathering Reply with quote

"Would it hurt them so much to grandfather the degrees for the students who signed up three years ago?" - Saint57

That is what was done at the university I used to work for. When tuition was increased, or the institutional name on the degree was changed, it affected only incoming freshmen. Everyone else graduated under the same terms and conditions they were offered when they enrolled. Clearly, the officials in that province were more perceptive than those responsible for such decisions at the OP's school.
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stil



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint57 wrote:
I have to side with the students on this one. That's a pretty dirty thing to do. They took their money for three years, and then changed the deal. I can understand a good school wanting to distance itself from the idiots we read about everyday on this forum, but not in this way. Would it hurt them so much to grandfather the degrees for the students who signed up three years ago?


If they are allowed to. It may not be up to the University. The school in my city does not want to have the private school break away because it's a cash cow, but it's not their choice as there is a new directive.
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Girl Scout



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The information is starting to spread thanks mostly to the internet. Here is yet another link to more media reports.

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060619_2.htm
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