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spongedaniels
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 Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: How to apply for Chinese universities? |
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Hey all, first post here so go easy on me  . Like everyone else scouring through these forums I'm interested in teaching in China soon. I have one quick question that I hope you guys can help me out with: basically, how does one go about applying for English teaching positions in Chinese universities? I know every once in a while they post in Dave's China Jobs board, but that's more the exception than the norm. I tried looking at Angelina's ESL Cafe but a) the site looked sort of sketchy and b) I've heard more than one person here state that I shouldn't go through any recruiters and rather should apply to schools directly.
I wanted to teach in a University because I think I'll enjoy the teaching interaction more with university students than younger ones, plus I'd like to have the academic resources available (libraries, etc) while there. I don't mind the lower pay that I know comes with the territory . So...any tips or advice?
Thanks in advance! |
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Shan-Shan
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My suggestion would be to contact schools directly. This can be done by finding their websites, and links to foreign affairs departments. On occasion, univerisites advertise positions themselves via their websites.
There are also some websites which contain contact information for different universities (no middle person involved). I remember once using such a website to locate a school, and then call to set up an interview. The first thing the represetitives told me upon arriving in their VIP lounge was that a recruiter had given them my name, and would be happy to introduce me for 4.000RMB! Turns out I saved the university just that much (with only a cup of crappy green tea in return). I didn't take their offer -- lousy tea translated into a red flag for me!
The easy money made off our sheer existence just wows me. |
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China.Pete
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Free To Advertise Sites |
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"(H)ow does one go about applying for English teaching positions in Chinese universities?" - Spongedaniels
Few Chinese universities choose to advertise on Dave's. Most would probably rather avoid the listing fee! This may give a clue as to what you might expect while working for some of them. Try chinatefl.com, instead. There are several other, mostly free-to-advertise sites out there with direct contact details. |
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Dragonsaver
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Location: Dalian, China
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| Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: Re: How to apply for Chinese universities? |
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| spongedaniels wrote: |
I wanted to teach in a University because I think I'll enjoy the teaching interaction more with university students than younger ones, plus I'd like to have the academic resources available (libraries, etc) while there. I don't mind the lower pay that I know comes with the territory . So...any tips or advice?
Thanks in advance! |
First of all, you have mistaken Chinese University students with Western University Students. Not similar in the least. I am teaching at a University and the students are as mature as and behave similar to High School Students. We have one teacher that has 30 years high school teaching experience and thought University would be a change. She was very disillusioned and thought the students were similar to first or second year high school.
I got my job through chinatefl.com as recommended by China.Pete |
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tw
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pandasteak
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ya, just find their websites and contact them directly.
Here's a starting point for ya.
China Top University list 2003 |
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Yu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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The first Uni job I got was from sending an e-mail to the school from a contact sheet I had. My husband was an alumni from that school, and I talked about really wanting to teach there in my cover letter. I was told this school does not usually get teachers from the US but hires the local foreigners, so I considered myself lucky in securing the job.
I changed to my current university last year. I got that job by handing my resume to the FAO.
I think it is getting late in the recuritment season for uni jobs for this year as most people want to get done working and take there summer holiday. As far as I know my department has filled the positions already. At this time last year I already had my job lined up as well.
I would look for Uni jobs posted on the web and try to contact people. You might also contact the university's department for teaching foreigners Chinese as those students are also handled through the waiban and might be able to lead you to the person who is in charge of the foreign teachers.
Good luck to finding a uni job. I dont think it is all that difficult to get one. I really enjoy teaching at a university. |
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prof
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The first Uni job I got was from sending an e-mail to the school from a contact sheet I had. My husband was an alumni from that school, and I talked about really wanting to teach there in my cover letter. I was told this school does not usually get teachers from the US but hires the local foreigners, so I considered myself lucky in securing the job.
I changed to my current university last year. I got that job by handing my resume to the FAO.
I think it is getting late in the recuritment season for uni jobs for this year as most people want to get done working and take there summer holiday. As far as I know my department has filled the positions already. At this time last year I already had my job lined up as well.
I would look for Uni jobs posted on the web and try to contact people. You might also contact the university's department for teaching foreigners Chinese as those students are also handled through the waiban and might be able to lead you to the person who is in charge of the foreign teachers.
Good luck to finding a uni job. I dont think it is all that difficult to get one. I really enjoy teaching at a university. |
I guess it's a heckuva lot easier to get a uni. job in China if you are MARRIED to a Chinese person who has a ft job!! |
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Girl Scout
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| I think it is getting late in the recuritment season for uni jobs for this year as most people want to get done working and take there summer holiday. |
So utterly untrue. There are plenty of uni jobs available now and thru the middle of Sept. Take your time and make the right choice for you.
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| I'd like to have the academic resources available (libraries, etc) while there |
Your idea of academic resources and China's idea are going to be two seperate things. |
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Gorak
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: Re: How to apply for Chinese universities? |
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| spongedaniels wrote: |
I wanted to teach in a University because I think I'll enjoy the teaching interaction more with university students than younger ones, plus I'd like to have the academic resources available (libraries, etc) while there. I don't mind the lower pay that I know comes with the territory . So...any tips or advice? |
Consider teaching in the English Department of a university. Their students' levels of English are higher than other departments and may allow for more teaching interaction. I say may because it depends on the FT's ability to get the cooperation of his/her students.
As for academic resources, better bring them! |
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Yu
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| I guess it's a heckuva lot easier to get a uni. job in China if you are MARRIED to a Chinese person who has a ft job!! |
In terms of getting a job, I dont think it matters that I am married to a Chinese person.... most FTs are not married to a Chinese person (at least at my school).
In terms of coping with the FT salary at the University, if absolutly helps to have two incomes. But I can make enough to provide food, housing, and other important stuff on my salary. I know another FT here with his wife and two kids, and they live mainly on his salary.
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I think it is getting late in the recuritment season for uni jobs for this year as most people want to get done working and take there summer holiday.
So utterly untrue. There are plenty of uni jobs available now and thru the middle of Sept. Take your time and make the right choice for you.
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My friend in Waiban informed me that he was looking forward to essentially a two month vacation. I just assumed it meant for all of the Waiban. If that is the case, It might be worth coming to China and visiting some of the schools yourself.
The resources at the college library useful, but scarce. Libraries also have different rules. But it seems the job of the school librarian is more of a book guard who prevents students from getting to the books and is not helpful in locating sources. |
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spongedaniels
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Thanks for all your replies--I'm going to check out those sites immediately.
Regarding my expectations on the students and the resources...well, I don't really know what to expect. I just mentioned those things because I'd really prefer working with an elder crowd than kindergarten/elementary schoolchildren, which seem to be what most of the private institutions are targeting.
Thanks again! |
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