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tvik



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Ankara Reply with quote

What's wrong with living in Ankara???? isn't it safer than istanbul?? aren't the people more friendly and less inclined to rip you off constantly??? I am thinking about going there to do a masters degree. am i off my head? is istanbul the only viable choice?
what do i do if i don't like crowds?
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ankara - Brussels without the history; Milton Keynes without the charisma. Razz
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Nmarie



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, Tvik. Istanbul drove me insane, mainly because I could never feel at ease there -- Two years was my limit. If you don't do Ankara, maybe consider Izmir. At least, it's on the sea.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Ankara versus Istanbul Reply with quote

Ankara has advantages and disadvantages compared with Istanbul.

Advantages of Ankara

1. Cheaper than Istanbul for rent, transport, meals and most everything.

2. You will be treated less like a tourist, and 'blend in' more easily.

Disadvantages of Ankara

1. Ghost actually finds the people in Istanbul to be more friendly, in general, than the inhabitants of Ankara and surrounding areas (incl. the City of Eskisehir...).

2. Rather boring city, compared with Istanbul. Not much 'buzz' to the place.

3. Weather can get pretty cold in winter. Summer, though is good in Ankara.

Ghost did its Turkish language training at the Tomer Institute in Ankara, and was generally pleased with the training and services offered, including homestay.

Ankara is also a good venue to travel North, South and Eastern parts of Turkey, with excellent services at the huge 'Otogar'

Overall not a bad place, but certainly not the most friendly people....but if you do make friends in Ankara, they will tend to be more genuine than other locales in Turkey.

Ghost, in Montreal, Canada
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tvik



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the input....
i'm in izmir now but there is no masters program here that i am interested in.
being canadian i don't mind a cold few months in the winter.
about the night life, i've always been a bar person rather than a club/dance music person. As long as i can find a comfortable bar stool with a few interesting people i will be happy.
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mongrelcat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mongrelcat agrees with Ghost
mongrelcat is getting out of Ankara this summer.

Ankara is brown, not green. It gets to you after a while.
Yes, people are not friendly. They will stare at you, especially if you have blue eyes. At first its okay. But after a while its maddening.

You will become friendly with the shopkeepers in your neighborhood though. They enjoy having a yabancı around to mess with. I will actually miss a couple of my shopkeepers when i go.

But yes...it is stupid cheap here compared to elsewhere.
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harry the hobbit



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry the hobbit says stay in Izmir there are a lot more Canadians there and the people are very friendly especially the girls ,they love hobbits !
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is harry related to Ghost?
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity, how does the abundance of Canadians in Izmir make it more appealing? (this is speaking as a canadian myself...)
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tvik



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't really understand that one myself...

has anyone gone to university in Turkey does anyone know what it's like to be a student in this country?
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Birds... Reply with quote

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Just out of curiosity, how does the abundance of Canadians in Izmir make it more appealing? (this is speaking as a canadian myself...)


``Birds of a feather flock together``....no more so than in the world of EFL...where foreign teachers often meet up with other teachers, out of convenience and because they speak the same language. Some of those teachers would not choose those other teachers as their friends in their own countries, but because they are overseas the choices are more limited, and it is almost like a ``forced`` relationship...in that sense.

Ghost
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still wouldn't seek out Canadians, nor other foreigners- A lot of my friends in Istanbul are foreign because of where I work and who I come into contact with, but where I used to live I had no foreign friends in my second year. I felt no great loss.

Why are there so many cnucks in Izmir?
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tekirdag



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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``Birds of a feather flock together``....no more so than in the world of EFL


Huh?

It's human nature to do such a thing. When people immigrate they flock together. How many cities have a China Town or Little Italy or something like that?
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaramaz wrote:
I still wouldn't seek out Canadians, nor other foreigners- A lot of my friends in Istanbul are foreign because of where I work and who I come into contact with, but where I used to live I had no foreign friends in my second year. I felt no great loss.

Why are there so many cnucks in Izmir?



Sure-that is why you left and came to Istanbul.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be silly. I came to Istanbul for the food and drink.
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