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Whats a good salary for an ESL teacher?

 
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teacherwilltravel



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Whats a good salary for an ESL teacher? Reply with quote

Is salary of 65000-70000 NT a good salary? I know its like asking how long is string but was wondering what kind of lifestyle in Taipei this income would get you

If anyone has a knowledge of Japan was wondering how these salaries compare 3700000 yen for one year (JET Program) and 67500 NT per month (living in city areas)

Ofcourse choosing a country because youre interested in the culture is NUMBER 1 but I noticed some salaries are just enough for food shelter water and paying the bills eg some jobs in china for 3000 -4000 RMB or so im told
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TWT...

that salary is reasonable, maybe a bit low from what else i've seen out there, but depending on what else is included in the contract it may be good...

that is unless that is your annual salary, then you may have a problem on your hands Laughing Laughing Laughing
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kuberkat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long a string is depends on what you want to do with it. And how good a salary is depends on what you have to do for it. The amount you mention is acceptable for about 28-30 weekly contact hours, but do find out what other duties await and what your days and weeks will look like. I'd say this is a great salary if you can work 4-5 block hours a day, five days a week and you have a month off every year. But if there are more working hours, and they are not blocked, and you don't have weekends or decent holidays, keep looking.

Repeat after me: Quality of life is more important than money. But money adds quality to life.
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Northwood



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should help. It is copy/paste job from previous posts:

First, take the two main factors: hourly pay and hours worked. A typical school may offer you somewhere around or between NT$560 per hour (the depressing end) to NT$630 per hour (the happy end). Hours per week will vary from school to school and even schedule to schedule. To give you some perspective, 20 hours a week is a bit low and 30 hours is quite high. The worst case in this example is NT$45k per month and the best is NT$76k (both figures are gross, not net). So, take the middle figure as your average, which is around 60k.

Let me state again, these figures are estimates. Of course, some teachers might be on a worse deal, and others will be on a better deal.

Then come the other factors: Some hold down 2 jobs, others are looking for 1. Some pay tax, others don't. Some teach in their 'free time', others don't, etc, etc.

Until I read any other better comments, I will stand by 60K as being a fairly balanced and realistic figure.

Taipei can be cheap or expensive. Taipei is though the most expensive of all cities in Taiwan. Depending on your lifestyle, a carefree teacher could easily burn through NT$45,000 a month and have anything to show for it at the end of the month. That does not include rent. I did that for my first 3 years. Common opinion among my friends is that when times get tough, you can get by NT$400 a day (that�s without becoming a tee-total or otherwise hobby free hermit, but again, this does not include rent). Of course, everyone has their own take on this. Check out some web sites on the cost of living index for major cities. You may be quite surprised at how high on the list Taipei is ranked.
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SanChong



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Well Reply with quote

It's always impossible to judge a salary based on the monthly figure alone. How many hours are you working? Are they block or split shifts? How many office hours do you have? How many extracurricular activities are you responsible to participate in? Is there a year end bonus? These are all very important factors in judging a salary.

Assuming all the peripherals are positive, that salary is definitely above average.
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teacherwilltravel



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the salary is for primary school teaching 8.30 -4.30 5 days a week tax is 13 percent though i read that its 20 percent for the first half odf the yr then 13 percent for the second half but u get the 7 percent diff back later in the second half of the yr
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Ki



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, these government positions again. Can anyone verify how good these jobs are?

As a salary it sounds alright but how many of those hours are spent teaching? I use 600 an hour as a base figure. I would never accept anything less than that though I am not exactly a new teacher either. What are the other benefits? Most cram schools give you almost zero benefits making salary positions much less desirable than hourly wages. But this isn't exactly a cram school, is it. How long are the holidays? Are they paid or unpaid?

As far as 'can you lead a good lifestyle on this money?' Yes. I would think that most teachers earn about that much. I know teachers earning a lot more but I also know of others earning a lot less. Depending on how you manage your money you can live a very decent living, go out on weekends and still save over half of it.
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Miyazaki



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're a licensed teacher, apply for jobs at international schools, like Taipei American School where teachers make NT $150,000 - NT $200,000 a month and get housing and other benefits.

Why work for a measly NT $70,000 a month when you're a real teacher!
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is salary of 65000-70000 NT a good salary? I know its like asking how long is string but was wondering what kind of lifestyle in Taipei this income would get you

If anyone has a knowledge of Japan was wondering how these salaries compare 3700000 yen for one year (JET Program) and 67500 NT per month (living in city areas)


The difference is that in Taiwan you will be lucky to get 65,000NT per month if the offer stipulates 65000-70000NT per month. On Taiwan deception and lies are an intricate part of the culture.
In Japan you can rest assured that you will be paid what is offered and the job will be legitimate.
On Taiwan nearly all minority native English teachers are in violation of one regulation or another due to the fact that we are required by the occupational government to rely on our Taiwanese employer to get our work visa and ARC. Thus nearly all ARc's issued to teachers are fraudulent but that is quite acceptable to the local government as it increases bribes and kick backs, much to the determent of all of us on Taiwan.
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