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JohnBankier
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 Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Job hunting on a temporary (non-work) visa |
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Apologies if this has been covered before, but I couldn't find anything about it through the search.
I'm considering coming back to Japan this October on a temporary visa, in order to look for work. I have money and a place to stay. I'm really looking for a small conversation school in Kanto to sponsor my visa, somewhere a bit different to the big schools. Is this a realistic idea, or do I need to have a work visa before smaller schools will hire me? Obviously I'd prefer to have done this out of the country, but that doesn't seem to be happening for me.
I have three years experience, two with an eikawa in Japan, and one in New Zealand, plus CELTA and a BA in English, if this helps.[/list]
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canuck
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| It's fine, but better just tell immigration that you're visiting a friend. Ideally, get a working holiday visa so you can hit the ground running, and change over to a working visa when you find a company that will sponsor you. Good luck. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| You can't get a work visa unless the employer decides to hire you and sponsor the visa. They don't always do both. |
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JohnBankier
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| Thanks, but I'm aware of that (see my post). My question is whether or not small schools in general are likely to sponsor me - my impression was that a lot of schools require you to have a work visa before they'll hire you, and only later will sponsor your visa renewal after you've been working with them for a while. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| JohnBankier wrote: |
| Thanks, but I'm aware of that (see my post). My question is whether or not small schools in general are likely to sponsor me - my impression was that a lot of schools require you to have a work visa before they'll hire you, and only later will sponsor your visa renewal after you've been working with them for a while. |
They can do this, or they can do the paperwork to change your visa status. It doesn't cost them money, but time, and the fact they have to act as a guarantor to you and your activities. Many small schools have to and do sponsor their teachers that work full-time for them. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Many small schools have to and do sponsor their teachers that work full-time for them. |
I wasn't aware of any sort of obligation that an employer has for sponsoring his employees for a visa. Where did you get this?
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| My question is whether or not small schools in general are likely to sponsor me - my impression was that a lot of schools require you to have a work visa before they'll hire you, and only later will sponsor your visa renewal after you've been working with them for a while. |
I think it's a toss of the coin. Some will; some won't. Nobody has any specific statistics on this (even me). When an employer posts and ad saying he wants people who already have a visa, it might mean he will be willing to renew, or it might mean he wants people who don't need renewal (such as a spouse visa or PR or dependent visa) by the employer. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Many small schools have to and do sponsor their teachers that work full-time for them. |
I wasn't aware of any sort of obligation that an employer has for sponsoring his employees for a visa. Where did you get this? |
In the sense that if the school needs a teacher, a teacher might need a visa. Many small schools look for a teacher and if they want to hire them, go through the process of sponsoring the teacher. Many schools that don't offer to sponsor the teacher for a full-time position, limit the numbers drastically. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| In the sense that if the school needs a teacher, a teacher might need a visa. |
There is no "might". To work, you need a visa. Period. However, what TYPE of visa that allows work can vary, and not all of them require the employer to sponsor the individual.
I guess my question earlier was about why an employer would "have to" sponsor a visa, as you worded it. He doesn't, of course. He either chooses to or doesn't. |
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sj23
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To the OP - are you a kiwi?? ... why don't you apply for the WHV before you come, then you're allowed to look for work etc legally  |
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