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Natives to pay VAT on earnings

 
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MilesFerdinand



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Natives to pay VAT on earnings Reply with quote

I heard (from a Pole who likes his politics) that the government is considering making natives on these "semi freelance" contracts pay VAT on their earnings. Anyone shed more light on this?
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Grrrmachine



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus the planned 15% tax for both buyer and seller on all property sales? Oooh, I love the current administration...
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Pollux



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the present administration but the EU that is forcing changes.

BTW, this is the first administration that is not communist, socialist, or whatever, outside of Olszewski's government in 1992 that was brought down by Walesa, Tusk, Mazowiecki, and other 'heroes.'

New rules shouldn't concern us the way I read them. If they do, in 2007, we can thank the bureaucrats in Brussels, and the French in particular, who invented VAT.
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Grrrmachine



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I said "the administration" - I wasn't sure who to point the finger at (I only understood half of what the estate agent was telling me, in Polish.)
Whoever is pulling the strings, I still find it insane that it'll condemn the young workforce to another few years paying rent to slum landlords and "mature investors" as they can't afford these rises to buy their own place.
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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Natives to pay VAT on earnings Reply with quote

MilesFerdinand wrote:
I heard (from a Pole who likes his politics) that the government is considering making natives on these "semi freelance" contracts pay VAT on their earnings. Anyone shed more light on this?


Won't make any difference. You just add the VAT onto your bill and pay it, the company you are working for will deduct the VAT. You don't care because you are not earning any less, the company don't care because they are not paying any more.


Alternatively just don't give any invoice and get paid in used notes, that's perhaps the sanest reaction to a government which can not realise that the higher they push tax the fewer people will want to pay all of what they should.
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cezarek



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grrrmachine wrote:

Whoever is pulling the strings, I still find it insane that it'll condemn the young workforce to another few years paying rent to slum landlords and "mature investors" as they can't afford these rises to buy their own place.


I'm always really surprised how many people here, earning 1500zl per month manage to get a mortgage.

Rent prices are falling, since so many 'mature investors' (lovely phrase) have places to let.

I think the banks are being particularly generous about mortgages right now, and I have no idea how long it takes them to reposess - and they can't anyway if a woman with a child is zameldowane there. It sems to hardly ever happen.
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Grrrmachine



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the Swiss Franc lenders are trying to flog as many mortgages as they can whilst they still can, which is helping, but in Warszawa all Im hearing from my students at this point (the ones aged 22-29) is that landlords in the area are trying to charge more for the better apartments (anything not made of "wielka plyta"), whilst house prices are soaring - prices per metre have jumped from around 6500zl to pushing 8000zl in parts of Warszawa, with the suburbs taking similar rises.

To bring this back on track though, the VAT on earnings for "umowa dzialo" contracts has something to do with teachers now being branded as "artists" (suggesting education is a luxury rather than a neccessity, I presume.) From another discussion I had in the pub this week though, if teachers use a prescribed book (rather than conjuring the classes from thin air) then it avoids this VAT somehow - does anyone have more details on this?
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