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almuze



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: british grammar is different? Reply with quote

What?!? (or should I say, Wot?!?)
A Turkish English teacher I know is swearing up and down that British grammar and syntax are different from american english. (I haven't asked what he thinks about canadian and austrialian grammar).
except for the occasional "going to hospital" vs "going to the/a hospital".....
I am suspicious (cough) of his claim that british grammar is significantly different from american english. But if I just say "look, I just know" he says No, you dont.
How can I definitively solve this raging debate?
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newtefler



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admit that it is?
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newtefler



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: bath.. Reply with quote

will you take a bath or have a bath?
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are more differences in "grammar" than most of us realize:

http://www.answers.com/topic/american-and-british-english-differences
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FGT



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Differences include the folllowing:

Got vs Gotten
I've already done that vs I already did that
Talk to someone vs talk with someone
Write to someone vs write someone
Meet on thursday vs meet Thursday
ETC

The differences aren't cut and dried, language is always evolving and British English is probably becoming more Americanised (or Americanized?) all the time. Where Canadian, Australian et al fit in, I know not!
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entrailicus wrote:
Try convincing the teacher that they are speaking Turkish English anyway and not to worry.


Turkish English?
I didn't hear of such a thing.
One person said me that it was there, I wrote her you don't say me that.

I nearly closed my computer in disgust.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entrailicus wrote:
Time to open the lights Baba and start feeling yourself good.


Yes I didn't eat food yet today. but please don't angry me.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baba, you must go to home to eat something.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaramaz wrote:
Baba, you must go to home to eat something.


Ouf Yani. I know I'm obliged to do this, but I'm borring and I'm nervous in traffic.
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billybuzz



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh God ,this just gonna run and run ,Ican see it just with myiiiiiiiis
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An old favourite of mine, and one Turkish students love:
"THIS JOB FINISHES IN THE BLACK ARM" (Bu is kara-kolda biter)

- A LOVE STORY -

Ender was a very ripe boy. His father was a middle situationed man.

He was from Middle-pole. To make his son read in good schools he

made everything coming from his hand. He took everything to eye. Even

he

made his wife's "it's five-in-one-place"s read. His mother was a

house woman. Every job used to come from her hand. In making food

there was no one on her top. The taste of the observations she

cooked used to stay on your palate. This woman made her hair brush for

her

son. When Ender became sick, she cried her two eyes two fountains.

When Ender finished lise he wanted to be a tooth doctor, and he

entered the university exams and won Tootherness School. In the

school he knew to each other with Jale. When he saw her he said,

"Oh! Jale are you using ABC also". She said, "I can not see any

difference". Ender said, "Why more should you pay". Thus Ender was

hit to Jale in first look but Jale was not hit to him in the first

look. But her blood boiled to him. A few weeks later they cooked

the job and they gave lentil to the oven. Jale's father was

money-father.

He turned the corner many years ago by making dreamy export. But Jale

was

not like her father. She was

very low hearted girl. Her father was wanting to make her head-eye

with his soldierness friend Abdullah bey's son Abdurrahim.

Abdurrahim finished first school and didn't read later. He became rough

uncle.

He started to turn dirty jobs when he was a crazy blooded man. He

was his mother's eye. Reportedly said "HINK" fell from his father's

nose.

So three under, five up he was like his father. When he saw Jale, he

put eye to her. His inside went. His mouth watered. His eyes opened

like

fortune stone. He grinned dirty dirty.

To be able to see Jale, Ender's inside was eating his inside.

Finally, together they went to a park. When they were wrinkling in

the park, Abdurrahim saw them. First he pulled a deep inside. And

thenhis eyes turned. He couldn't catch himself. He wanted to send

them to wooden village, but he collected himself. He felt that the

basket weather was blowing for him. He decided to leave them head to

head. At that moment the satan poked him. He fit to the satan, he

pulled his gun and fired. However, a man passing stayed under lead

rain and poor man went to who hit. He erected the horseshoes. In one

moment, scarletish doomsday broke.

The without mirrors came. They took all of them under eye. Jale's

inside was blood crying. The man died eye seeing seeing.

And so, this job finished in the black arm.
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almuze



Joined: 25 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, yes! I admit that it is different (altho I did try the "you're speaking Turkish English anyway" line...)
But look, the actual debate is this - can an American (or any non-british english speaker) correctly edit and proofread a British textbook?

A British friend who teachs dershane says -No, there are too many differences, little things, you would have to be British to pick up on

An American friend of mine who edits english books for a living says - Yes, of course someone other than a British person can proofread a British text. they just have to be careful of the differneces.

I suspect this forum is leaning towards my British friend.....I will have to go buy her a drink! offff!
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