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almuze
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 125
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: british grammar is different? |
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What?!? (or should I say, Wot?!?)
A Turkish English teacher I know is swearing up and down that British grammar and syntax are different from american english. (I haven't asked what he thinks about canadian and austrialian grammar).
except for the occasional "going to hospital" vs "going to the/a hospital".....
I am suspicious (cough) of his claim that british grammar is significantly different from american english. But if I just say "look, I just know" he says No, you dont.
How can I definitively solve this raging debate? |
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newtefler

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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admit that it is? |
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newtefler

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: bath.. |
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will you take a bath or have a bath? |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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FGT

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Differences include the folllowing:
Got vs Gotten
I've already done that vs I already did that
Talk to someone vs talk with someone
Write to someone vs write someone
Meet on thursday vs meet Thursday
ETC
The differences aren't cut and dried, language is always evolving and British English is probably becoming more Americanised (or Americanized?) all the time. Where Canadian, Australian et al fit in, I know not! |
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Baba Alex

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Entrailicus wrote: |
Try convincing the teacher that they are speaking Turkish English anyway and not to worry. |
Turkish English?
I didn't hear of such a thing.
One person said me that it was there, I wrote her you don't say me that.
I nearly closed my computer in disgust. |
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Baba Alex

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Entrailicus wrote: |
Time to open the lights Baba and start feeling yourself good. |
Yes I didn't eat food yet today. but please don't angry me. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Baba, you must go to home to eat something. |
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Baba Alex

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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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yaramaz wrote: |
Baba, you must go to home to eat something. |
Ouf Yani. I know I'm obliged to do this, but I'm borring and I'm nervous in traffic. |
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billybuzz
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 219 Location: turkey
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oh God ,this just gonna run and run ,Ican see it just with myiiiiiiiis |
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Golightly

Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 877 Location: in the bar, next to the raki
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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An old favourite of mine, and one Turkish students love:
"THIS JOB FINISHES IN THE BLACK ARM" (Bu is kara-kolda biter)
- A LOVE STORY -
Ender was a very ripe boy. His father was a middle situationed man.
He was from Middle-pole. To make his son read in good schools he
made everything coming from his hand. He took everything to eye. Even
he
made his wife's "it's five-in-one-place"s read. His mother was a
house woman. Every job used to come from her hand. In making food
there was no one on her top. The taste of the observations she
cooked used to stay on your palate. This woman made her hair brush for
her
son. When Ender became sick, she cried her two eyes two fountains.
When Ender finished lise he wanted to be a tooth doctor, and he
entered the university exams and won Tootherness School. In the
school he knew to each other with Jale. When he saw her he said,
"Oh! Jale are you using ABC also". She said, "I can not see any
difference". Ender said, "Why more should you pay". Thus Ender was
hit to Jale in first look but Jale was not hit to him in the first
look. But her blood boiled to him. A few weeks later they cooked
the job and they gave lentil to the oven. Jale's father was
money-father.
He turned the corner many years ago by making dreamy export. But Jale
was
not like her father. She was
very low hearted girl. Her father was wanting to make her head-eye
with his soldierness friend Abdullah bey's son Abdurrahim.
Abdurrahim finished first school and didn't read later. He became rough
uncle.
He started to turn dirty jobs when he was a crazy blooded man. He
was his mother's eye. Reportedly said "HINK" fell from his father's
nose.
So three under, five up he was like his father. When he saw Jale, he
put eye to her. His inside went. His mouth watered. His eyes opened
like
fortune stone. He grinned dirty dirty.
To be able to see Jale, Ender's inside was eating his inside.
Finally, together they went to a park. When they were wrinkling in
the park, Abdurrahim saw them. First he pulled a deep inside. And
thenhis eyes turned. He couldn't catch himself. He wanted to send
them to wooden village, but he collected himself. He felt that the
basket weather was blowing for him. He decided to leave them head to
head. At that moment the satan poked him. He fit to the satan, he
pulled his gun and fired. However, a man passing stayed under lead
rain and poor man went to who hit. He erected the horseshoes. In one
moment, scarletish doomsday broke.
The without mirrors came. They took all of them under eye. Jale's
inside was blood crying. The man died eye seeing seeing.
And so, this job finished in the black arm. |
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almuze
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 125
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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ok, yes! I admit that it is different (altho I did try the "you're speaking Turkish English anyway" line...)
But look, the actual debate is this - can an American (or any non-british english speaker) correctly edit and proofread a British textbook?
A British friend who teachs dershane says -No, there are too many differences, little things, you would have to be British to pick up on
An American friend of mine who edits english books for a living says - Yes, of course someone other than a British person can proofread a British text. they just have to be careful of the differneces.
I suspect this forum is leaning towards my British friend.....I will have to go buy her a drink! offff! |
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