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Degree verification - sloppy or strict?

 
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edgrimley



Joined: 12 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Degree verification - sloppy or strict? Reply with quote

At the one extreme an institution or Immigration office makes a request from the issuing institution for a certified transcript. At the other extreme the prospective employer/ bureaucrat makes a verbal enquiry. In between would be, I suppose, asking to see the degree and perhaps asking a few questions, maybe checking the web to see that University of X actually exists.

What was your experience in China?
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Cobra



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degrees are required so please type one up for them. Just make sure you do not forget the red chop.
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Peter



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be a software disc somewhere with an assortment of Unis and degrees......who has got one?

Make a PM to the man in need.
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edgrimley



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:40 am    Post subject: my question is a serious one Reply with quote

Should someone be so dastardly as to actually *pretend* to have a conventional degree from a real campus... the problem with on-line degrees, life experience degrees and those utterly bogus ones that used to be printed up in a certain kiosk in Bangkok (the principals have since been arrested), is that while the paper isn't bad (though not real cotton rag) and font looks legit, the seal looks cheap and phoney.

But I am not opening up the can of worms about phoney degrees. I am asking about fellow forum member's experiences in China with their legitimate degrees.
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Hamish



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my undergraduate degree from Harvard (1963), and did my PHD in linguistics at Princeton (1966).

(I was doing some work with Albert on another subject at the time and we wanted to be close.)

My records are public, and available to anyone in the archieve at...

http://www.fakedegrees.com

Regards,
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Julia Girl



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now thats funny.
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Cobra



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In China you do not even need a fake diploma. Just type a professional looking transcript with a red chop and you are IN!
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kimo



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I faxed copies of smudged, old copies of my originals. That was all I ever needed to do. Now that I know where the originals are, I'll have to get some more copies faxed to me.
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AKA



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I faxed through the genuine article, but I doubt if they check, 'cos another guy worked here on a University of Kalamazoo special, bought off the net.
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Klamm



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:09 pm    Post subject: In a word (and words)... Reply with quote

No.

You do not need a real degree or even a pretend one to work in China, although a pretend will at least make them feel less ridiculous. They might give you some hassle but just tell them you "forgot it" or were just too darn lazy to get it. Or tell them you'll have it later...

Then reconsider working in this country if you have a degree. Why not work in a country that actually respects education and degrees and pays enough where you could save enough to "earn" a one-year sabbotical in China and still have savings left over?

The choice is yours. Shocked

K.
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MonkeyKing



Joined: 24 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know plenty of people working in China with no degree. My previous job specified that a degree and TESOL cert' were required to work there...in reality, they took anyone breathing who looked the part.
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Julia Girl



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a degree, but why take it with me to China? It's on a wall some where 3000 miles away. Will this be a problem since my school has a faxed copy etc. and I have obtained a Z-Visa? Rolling Eyes
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yaco



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:57 pm    Post subject: fake degrees Reply with quote

Would they understand what a degree or diploma is ?

I doubt it !!!!!!!!!!!
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