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mich1005



Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: which certificate is best Reply with quote

Hello,
It is difficult to tell which certificate is the best by checking the job listings. Also, some positions offer the certificate for a fee and a short seminar before starting a position. Is this a good idea?
I have a MS in Adult Education and I'm finishing a EdD in Higher Education but would like to spend 1-2 years abroad before settling into a full time position.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Michelle
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Atassi



Joined: 13 Sep 2004
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Location: 평택

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle,
CELTA, Trinity, and SIT are probably the most-respected certificates. Whether you want a respected certificate or not really depends on where you plan to be. Every country and every employer is different.

Good luck
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saint57



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With your qualifications I'd say you don't need a certificate. Especially if you were a classroom teacher before earning all those degrees.
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mich1005



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: locating positions Reply with quote

Most of the positions require a certificate to apply. I have taught intro freshman courses at a University. Most positions want early childhood. I would like Central Europe but most programs I've located seem to want a fee for the certificate and aren't strictly placement. Am I looking in the wrong places?
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sw



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master of Science in Adult Education. What can you teach?
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mich1005



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: what I can teach Reply with quote

sw wrote:
Master of Science in Adult Education. What can you teach?


My teaching experience is with a first year transition program. It is titled, Critical Inquiry. It teaches students college writing, reading, and research at a college level. I have taught courses paired with Anthropology, Psychology, and Cultural Geography. I've also taught Environmental Science.
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Atassi



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle, some employers may respect your MS as a qualification for teaching a second language, but you should get some background in the field. TESOL is different than adult education. You could do the CELTA, or you could try reading and learning on the job and on your own. The CELTA may help you land the jobs though. Best of luck
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NON!

You can get a teaching job overseas with a high school diploma if you've done your homework. I got a couple of friends whose employers are under the impression that these guys are extremely well educated... in education no less.... Suckers!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

After all, do you really need more than a high school education to teach in some backward, corrupt country??
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Atassi



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not Rolling Eyes hehe, but seriously...she already has an MS. If she works in TESOL she should at least be a bit familiar with research and methods for different situations she might face. She obviously is somewhat professional about her work looking at her qualifications.
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White_Elephant



Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: locating positions Reply with quote

mich1005 wrote:
Most of the positions require a certificate to apply. I have taught intro freshman courses at a University. Most positions want early childhood. I would like Central Europe but most programs I've located seem to want a fee for the certificate and aren't strictly placement. Am I looking in the wrong places?


Michelle, most countries in Europe require not only a CELTA/Trinity TESOL or equivalent but ALSO an EU passport along with a British accent AND your degree. I wont discuss the good possibility that most of them require at least one year of ESL teaching experience. Moreover, most of these countries pay peanuts for ESL work and the competition is stiff as a board. Let's say you find an employer over there who wants you, good luck getting a visa as I know some of those countries could take months for a non-European.
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In '02 I got a job in Germany. As a Canadian I didn't need a visa or anything else. I packed and left. I had no certificates what so ever and no one asked me for one, only a M.A. in English Lit. The DOS wanted me to stay in Germany for years. I returned after a few months because they do pay peanuts and the taxes are very high.

I think the rules have changed now for Canadians; but if you're an American I think you could get a job... at least in Germany.
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White_Elephant



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deconstructor wrote:
In '02 I got a job in Germany. As a Canadian I didn't need a visa or anything else. I packed and left. I had no certificates what so ever and no one asked me for one, only a M.A. in English Lit. The DOS wanted me to stay in Germany for years. I returned after a few months because they do pay peanuts and the taxes are very high.

I think the rules have changed now for Canadians; but if you're an American I think you could get a job... at least in Germany.


Speaking of Germany, take a look here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=36380

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=41847

MY how things have changed!
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