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davidq
Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: If you are aware of any good University or Colleges hiring.. |
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Unfortunately I had a planned position fall through yesterday that was supposed to start this week and realize it's late in the game ... so just wondering if you could send a pm to me if your aware of any places that are still looking for teachers that could be recommended
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Check the ads on the web. I guarantee there are still many, many college and university positions because many employers either didn't have enough time to find their FT's before they had their summer break, or waited until /last this week when they returned to the office to start looking. |
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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, no, but you may not want to work for a university anyhow. The usuallt require you to live on campus, which is locked up tight, usually around 8 o'clock, making you a virtual prisoner. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, yeah, so thats drawback number one. Drawback number two is you almost always, from my research anyhow, have to work office hours, meaning a 40 hour week or more. Top that with the fact that the jobs rarely pay what they are worth, well, your better of going to a middle school and teaching young adults, as americans call them. The pay can be pretty good, and you are less likely to have all those office hours, and you don't get locked in at night, a definite plus if you ask me. The pay for some university job's can be great, but those are the minority, and you won't likely have much time for anything else but work, which was not my sole reason in coming to china. keep an open mind, do some more, a lot fo research, like weeks worth, before you decide. I'll kep everyone poasted on the outfit I hooked up with. if they fulfill their promises, then they are one of the best outfits I have yet to come across, in either research or directly, so working for them would be a boon, if they fulfill their word, we will see. Basically it's a little to early to tell. I do have a very nice, very big four room apartment, with everything I would have in the states, and it all works, so I can not complain much. However the visa situation still has me wondering, so I will wait to see how that works out. |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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NathanRahl wrote: |
The usuallt require you to live on campus, which is locked up tight, usually around 8 o'clock, making you a virtual prisoner. |
I have taught at two colleges and a university, and now at another university and I can say, none of them ever locked up at 8pm. In Dalian the apartment was locked up at 10:30pm, in Hohhot it was 10pm, and the current school 11pm (for those FT's in the same section as the Chinese teachers are). But a virtual prisoner? I hardly think so. The attendants would still come and unlock the door if you choose to come back late once in a while.
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Drawback number two is you almost always, from my research anyhow, have to work office hours, meaning a 40 hour week or more. |
Again, completely untrue. I have yet to put in one single minute of office time in any public school I've taught at nand that's the beauty about teaching at public schools. |
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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ah public school, that is a different matter in some respect. Anyhow, are your classes back to back, or do you have huge gaps inbetween classes as I am seeing. I will be honest, the idea of spending my day waiting in between classes many hours is not appealing, doe's anyone else have the same kind of schedule? |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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NathanRahl wrote: |
Ah public school, that is a different matter in some respect. |
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Anyhow, are your classes back to back, or do you have huge gaps inbetween classes as I am seeing. I will be honest, the idea of spending my day waiting in between classes many hours is not appealing, doe's anyone else have the same kind of schedule? |
As a matter of fact, I do have a big four-hour gap on Tuesdays for the first two weeks (first-year students don't start until week three). That is not going to bother me much at all since it'd be for two days only. Besides, given the fact that most colleges and universities have a classroom shortage problem, I am not going to raise too much of a big fuss over it. Let's face it, you can either whine and complain, or you can use the time to do things like cleaning your apartment, doing laundry, and even preparing lessons. |
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HGLTsuperstar
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with the above, not got my schedule yet but no office hours and technically live "on campus" but the teachers housing is set aside from the students, (there's a river in between), and its a 10 minute walk to class. When/if I do have a gap, it'l lbe nice to pop "home", do my laundry, sprall out on the sofa with that leading broadcaster CCTV-9, or just surf the net with the free broadband, especially in the heat of the day. |
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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, well now, we are all impressed with what a tough guy you are, bet you had to walk 12 miles through ice and snow every day just to get to school. I mean really, gimmie a break.
I can whine and complain you say, or just accept it? LOL, Had I agreed to such, I would not complain at all, however, it is the deceit I do not like. Yes, your a big man because it wouldn't bother you, oh please. As you said, it's temporary for you, only for two days. Mine is every day, five days a week, so I think my situation is very different from yours.
Lesson plans, I make them up on Sunday. Laundry, I don't have that many clothes. Sprawl on the couch waiting for the next class, uh huh, not my type of thing.
Yeah, your a real tough guy, ooh, we are all rather impressed with you and your stoicism. I think I am done looking for advice on this subject here. Just too many people looking to find fault, who instead of offering help, want to take this chance to feel better and superior by knocking someone who is down, what a joke. It has nothing to do with whining or complaining my jack ass friend, it has to do with honor, keeping ones word, that type of thing. That's what makes me mad in the end, being lied to by my employers. The ridiculoussnes of the hours is just something to bitch about because I got screwed, nothing more, you foolish person. But hey, any chance to one up yourself at the expense of someone else is ok, while me "complaining about being lied to is not, ok, pfft. Good day.
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: |
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jwbhomer

Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 876 Location: CANADA
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: Kwitcher bitchin |
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I spent three years in China and never encountered ANY of the problems Nathan's ragging on about. Workload at both universities (both in GD) was 14 hours a week. Never had "split shifts". No office hours, because we had no offices! (Yes, there's a definite shortage of space.) Teachers' apartment blocks were good, and there was no curfew.
Seems like friend Nate is just determined to find fault. Frankly, considering the quality of his grammar and spelling, I'll be surprised if he manages to hold onto his job! |
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Songbird
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 630 Location: State of Chaos, Panic & Disorder...
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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'nother one here questioning Nathan's grievanes....I'm at a different college this year, also taught at one last year, lockup time is about 11ish, but yeah, bang on it loudly and they'll usually come out, especially for the foreigner . Lucky me, I actually live at the old campus, students on the new (as well as all classes) so work and personal life are seperate thisyear! And because of this, the English department tries extra hard (and seems to always succeed!) in giving us block morning or afternoon classes so we don't have to trudge back and forward all day. We all love this!
No office hours at all either, though as foreign teachers we are planning on 'pitching in' together and all having 1 day a week in the Resource Room where students can see us, even if just for a chat.
I am still stunned at how I scored such an awesome job here ! |
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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: |
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I think you need to re-read my message, their are no major grammatical errors, though perhaps we should look at your message. As if I am writing a novel here, lol. I wonder, who is it that is trying to find fault, me, or you. Bye bye. |
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Sinobear

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269 Location: Purgatory
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Meiguoren
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Are these curfew policies something a person discovers before or after accepting a position?
Are there threads at this site or any other that list whether or not particular schools has a curfew policy?
Thanks in advance. |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Meiguoren wrote: |
Are these curfew policies something a person discovers before or after accepting a position? |
I think it is very safe to say that if you will be living on campus then there will be a "curfew". To be fair though, these so-called curfews are nothing but locking up the front of the apartment from the inside. If this bothers you, negotiate for housing allowance and ask the employer to help you find off-campus housing. |
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