View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: Big news at ECC |
|
|
The General Union and ECC have signed a historic collective agreement over Shakai Hoken (Health and Pension). ECC will enroll any 29.5 hour contract instructors who wishes to be enrolled on Shakai Hoken from October 1, 2006. Instructors who wish to be enrolled will have to work 30 hours or more per week. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
callmesim
Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 279 Location: London, UK
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
Wow!!!
That'll make many ECC teachers happy! Not me though, I've already paid for my health insurance this year and plan on leaving next year. The horror!! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
Notice they say only for those over 29.5.... That's pretty much the trainers on up only unless they're gonna include those who do overtime regularly.
Long overdue but its somewhat anti-climatic. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Like a Rolling Stone

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 872
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yes I think GOES did this back a year or so a go and they just made all the teachers do part time and they had to clock in and out more times Yhink ECC's workers can all expecy new contracts soon.  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Big news at ECC |
|
|
yamanote senbei wrote: |
ECC will enroll any 29.5 hour contract instructors who wishes to be enrolled on Shakai Hoken from October 1, 2006. Instructors who wish to be enrolled will have to work 30 hours or more per week. |
But it seems from the OP that ECC will give more hours to those who wish to work more, correcto? No? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
callmesim
Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 279 Location: London, UK
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That's how I read it too. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Like a Rolling Stone

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 872
|
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Big news at ECC |
|
|
Speed wrote: |
yamanote senbei wrote: |
ECC will enroll any 29.5 hour contract instructors who wishes to be enrolled on Shakai Hoken from October 1, 2006. Instructors who wish to be enrolled will have to work 30 hours or more per week. |
But it seems from the OP that ECC will give more hours to those who wish to work more, correcto? No? |
I heard NOVA stopped all the overtime for their workers to stopthe shaki hoken. Am I wrong?  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 559 Location: U.S.
|
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
It'll be nice if it happens, but I can't imagine the company suddenly agreeing to absorb that cost. Avoiding that cost is what the 29.5 hours was about. I suspect the union will soon have a bigger fight. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Firestarter
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 55
|
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
I saw the notice yesterday.....don't think I'd sign up as I'm still unsure if I'll be around beyond April. But we'll see.
How many of you would enroll? (Should have made a poll......) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
|
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
For the curious...
GU wins Shakai Hoken at ECC - 2006-07-28
The General Union and ECC have signed a historic collective agreement over Shakai Hoken (Health and Pension) on 28th July 2006. ECC will enroll any 29.5 hour contract instructors who wishes to be enrolled on Shakai Hoken from October 1, 2006. Instructors who wish to be enrolled will have to work 30 hours or more per week.
ECC will be placing notices in all ECC schools over the next few weeks. For more details contact the General Union
www.generalunion.org |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Dooly
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Toronto/Nagoya
|
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
I`ve been in Japan with ECC for 6 months now, and I have Global Health Insurance. If I get Shakai Hoken, will I have to make backpayments for Japanese Health Insurance? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Firestarter
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 55
|
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
Do teachers at AEON and Geos also have the option of joining Shakai Hoken? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Nicedog777
Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 35 Location: Japan.
|
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We at AEON have a sort travel health insurance through AIU. We get fully reinbursed for illness related visits, but not for dental or regular checkups. We also follow the 29.5 work hour deal on paper to skirt shakai hoken. I can't stress enough how on paper that 29.5 is....
But no, I don't think its an option for us. Not the entry level, anyway. Not sure about trainers. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
luckbox
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 180
|
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
Not to downplay important, even symbolic union victories like this, but if such victories are based on the number of hours per week worked (29.5), what's to prevent any and all companies from simply hiring workers for 29 hours or less? The same goes with length of a contract. If a worker must be contracted for 12 months to enjoy certain benefits by law, you'll simply see companies hiring on an 11-month contract basis.
One other problem area requiring attention: Instructors at some companies are often paid strictly for in class teaching time worked, yet they are expected to do all the necessary lesson planning, prep-work and various paperwork - for free. One company I know of uses the strategy of split shift: paid teaching time from 8 - 12, followed by a 4 hour break, then teaching from 4 to 7. The evening (and the morning, for that matter) portion requires all sorts of lesson planning and prep, and the company expects you to use your break time accordingly. Suddenly a split shift looks and feels more like a 12 hour working day. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
|
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Not to downplay important, even symbolic union victories like this, but if such victories are based on the number of hours per week worked (29.5), what's to prevent any and all companies from simply hiring workers for 29 hours or less? |
Nothing will prevent them. I think what teachers have to realize is that job ads are often labelled as "full-time job", yet they get shafted on these things simply because the employer doesn't report anything but the classroom hours to the government, thus allowing him to skirt the law. This sort of answers your other question, too. Teachers need to be better informed about what they are getting into, which is one reason the union exists (although it's surprising how few people actually know about it) and why people like me post on forums (and subsequently get labelled as a "doom and gloom" poster). |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|