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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Booking my CELTA /Tefl ..looking for last piece of advice.. |
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In just over a week I'll have enough money to book and pay for my Celta/tefl course.
I have done some major researching into the courses.
My first two choices were either EEC at Siam Square or International House and Chiang Mai. (both CELTA)
But I have to say two other options really catch my eye: Tefl in Banphe http://teflintl.com/tesol-course-thailand-banphe.htm and The Island tefl in Koh Samui http://www.islandtefl.com/index.php. Both say their tefl courses are internationally recognised.
Is there any reason to NOT do either of the latter two choices?
Would they both be less respected?
I would really appreciate your seasoned opinion guys! |
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tirelesstravelerasia
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 50 Location: Dalian, China
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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A place can legitimately claim to be 'internationally recognized' in the same way an airport can be 'international' -- recognized in at least 2 countries. I don't know anything at all about the two places you mention, but I know about the ECC CELTA in Bangkok - it's recognized everywhere in the world. I did the course myself 3 years ago. It was worth every dime.
Check out the adverts on every website -- they all say 'CELTA or equivalent'. No one mentions Ban Phe. |
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Bruce
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 51 Location: Around the world
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Ban Phe |
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TEFL International is the LARGEST TESOL course provider in the world. With (currently) 20 courses run on 6 continents. Our academic headquarters are in Ban Phe where our internationally-respected Lead Trainer, Dave Hopkins, trains on every course. Our Board of Academic Advisors includes some of the biggest names in the industry. While CELTA is older, there is no question that TEFL International is internationally recognized and well respected.
Here is a direct quote from a Head of Professional Development at the bangkok British Council: "BC Thailand does recognise this certificate for employment purposes as a CELTA equivalent." |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the swift replies.
I would really like to hear further opinions please. |
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isanity
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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TEFL International is well-known inside Thailand; less so (but increasingly) outside Thailand. If you're not planning to work outside Thailand, it's a good choice, but you'll be more limited internationally.
I wouldn't touch Island TEFL with a bargepole. |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Ty.
Has anyone taken either of the CELTA courses? Wondering what the pros and cons are of studying in Chiang Mai versus Bangkok. |
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Alexandros
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: CELTA |
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Hi all,
I have been accepted to the CELTA course in Bangkok (Siam Square), I'm starting on the 3rd of September. I know it''s internationally recognised etc., that's why I'm doing it, but what are he advantages and disadvantages of it? Anything specific I should be careful with? The two tasks we have to complete before the beginnign of the course are important right? |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with your course Alexandros!
I won't be starting mine until 6th Nov (Chiang Mai). Would love to know how you get on  |
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Alexandros
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Hi, |
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did anyone who did the CELTA course have any problems with the fees? I tried to send the money a month ago, the bank here in the UK sent the wrong amount (much less) and the ECC replied today, a month later (despite of my frequent reminders) and demands immediate payment of the rest of the money (actually a bit more but anyway). I want to pay them as soon as I get there, because if another problem happens with the bank I will not be here to fix it. From what you all knoe, is the ECC in BKK flexible as regards paying them in BKK instead of in the UK before you go? My course begins in Sunday for God's sake.... |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: CELTA |
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Alexandros wrote: |
Hi all,
I have been accepted to the CELTA course in Bangkok (Siam Square), I'm starting on the 3rd of September. I know it''s internationally recognised etc., that's why I'm doing it, but what are he advantages and disadvantages of it? Anything specific I should be careful with? The two tasks we have to complete before the beginnign of the course are important right? |
the well behaved, eager, willing and small numbers of students you have for your practice in celta will hardly match what you might face in the real world..... lackadaisical students, huge classes (40 or more to a class), poorly motivated students and students of every level of english thrown into one class. celta wont prepare you to deal with any of this.
one criticism of celta instructors. many of them seem to have worked in places like spain, oman, kuwait, etc where classroom conditions are very good in all respects. few of them seem to have spent any time in korea, china, taiwan, etc where working conditions can be considerably worse. thus, in some instances during training, they didnt know their a s s from a hole in the ground.
dont let this dissuade you from taking the training. just giving you another perspective on the course. its ok but not all its cracked up to be. and dont worry about being busy 24/7 on the course. if you have any halfway decent organizational and time managment skills, you'll have no troubles. you should consider tefl intl in ban phe as well. |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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hi 7969
I had set my heart on the CELTA in Chiang Mai (ill be paying for my course by this monday latest on whatever my final choice of location/course is), however, you recommend the tefl international course in ban phe.
Can you elaborate as to why you recommend this course? |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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sorry..nvm that last question really..because really have set my heart on the course in Chiang Mai.
Ive sent off my application form and will await their reply.
BUT..
this part gives me the shivers:
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If the task is completed satisfactorily
5. You will attend an interview at the centre, or if you are applying from outside of Thailand, a telephone interview will be arranged. You will be informed at the end of the interview as to whether or not you will be offered a place on the course. |
er...what do these telephone interviews intail? Will I be asked things like past and present verbs etc..(cuz oh lord i need to brush up on Grammar!). Any idea of what exactly they will be looking for? |
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isanity
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I can't speak for IH Chiang Mai, but generally CELTA interviews are just follow-up discussions based on the task they gave you. They're not looking for knowledge of grammatical terms- just for the ability to think about how language works, and maybe for your general ideas about teaching. They want to take your money, so unless the course is overbooked it should be very difficult to scare them off at this stage.  |
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eek

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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lol ok...tnx insanity.
Just woke up to an email saying ive passed the first stage (thats a relief..i think id feel pretty dumb if i hadnt). Sitting in front of the Pre-Interview Task now and thinking how little I actually know about the formations of my own native language!
Time to get my head stuck into some Grammar books, caramba... |
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White_Elephant

Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 175
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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isanity wrote: |
I can't speak for IH Chiang Mai, but generally CELTA interviews are just follow-up discussions based on the task they gave you. They're not looking for knowledge of grammatical terms- just for the ability to think about how language works, and maybe for your general ideas about teaching. They want to take your money, so unless the course is overbooked it should be very difficult to scare them off at this stage.  |
CELTA Interviews - I don't agree with the last post at all (based on my experience).
TEFL Internation - email me for the truth in the matter. |
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