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dave-in-deep
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject: Seniors hoping to teach ESL in Mexico |
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My wife and I are trying to decide on an appropiate study option with a view to qualifying for TESOL in Mexico starting in the fall 2003.
We are currently looking at the International TESOL (Ottawa based) and Global TESOL (Edmonton based) certification programs, and we would appreciate any opinions (pro or con) on either of these organizations, as well as advice on which specialization options might be most beneficial in a job search.
We are both retired, I from a career in accounting and my wife after experience in retail, hospitality, and many years of aerobics and aquafitness instruction.
We would like to spend about six months in Mexico on the initial work term, and plan to return on a more permanent basis next year. We plan to drive to Mexico, and our (tentative) preferences for location are Oaxaca, Chiapas , or Michoacan.
Any advice on suitable sources of employment in these states, and on the optimum times to start looking for employment would also be welcome.
Dave
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:02 pm Post subject: My thoughts |
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Chiapas would be one hell of a long drive for you. Personally, I wouldn't want to drive in the state of Chiapas with foreign plates on my car, especially at night.
As for International TESOL, if you want to be prepared to teach English as a foreign language, I suggest you do your homework regarding what this course offers for the money.
Just my humble opinion.
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dan allan
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 38
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:04 am Post subject: retired canadian couple |
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I think Global is ok, and I have not heard any signifcantly bad things about them. It is a short course, and I took it to supplement other teaching courses. I too would not drive in Chiapas at night. I am in Mexico City and can only say this this the place to make the most money, with the most opportunities. There are always lots of jobs here. I have 4 years here and have only travelled to the places your planning to go. By the way, I'm from Kelowna and Victoria.
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Brenda
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
I worked for a year in Leon, Guanajuato in Mexico and I hear that Michoacan is beautiful. I don't know about the working situation but I'd give it a try. Oaxaca the same. Personally, I haven't heard much good about Chiapas and wouldn't place it on my list of main destinations.
I'm not sure I've heard about Global but if you're talking about the same Intenational TESOL that I studied at here in Montreal, I'd stay away. They are good in terms of preparing foreigners to live abroad and have many good points to them, but I didn't fell quite prepared for actual TEACHING. I'm referring to www.teachandtravel.com
Personally, if you have the money and are willing to go straight down to Mexico, I'd recommend that you look into schools who offer TEFL certification in Mexico itself. I've recently been in touch with a school located in Mexico City that is owned and run by a Canadian (Guy Courchesne) and although I have yet to meet this individual and see his school, it seems reputable and trustworthy. Check it out at www.innovative-english.com In fact, once I get my butt back down in Mexico where my heart is already, I plan on visiting the school myself.
I've read about another school here on Dave's by the name of ITTO located in Guadalajara. I visited Guadalajara twice while living in Leon and love the city. I'd recommend checking out their website too: www.teflcertificatecourses.com I'd like to meet the Director and see that school with my own eyes too.
If you don't mind my asking, what intrigues you about the 3 cities you mentioned? What have you heard about them that appeals to you? I'm always interested in knowing more about different regions of Mexico myself...
I hope some of my info helps you and your wife! Good luck!
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Paul G

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 125 Location: China & USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Heed Brenda's warning about International TESOL aka Teach and Travel. Their reputation is horrible and they charge almost the same as a legitimate training course.
A good place to garner information about training courses is at:
http://www.eslcafe.com/discussion/dz1/
The directors of the two course that Brenda mentioned are regular posters on that forum and answer a lot of questions about not only their schools but Mexico in general.
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leslie
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 235
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:00 am Post subject: On driving down... |
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Driving down to Mexico can befraught with troubles, even if you are only crossing the Us border...I would strongly recommend against it.
With the costs invloved in registering your vehicle, higher gas prices, and risk from corrupt police, you would do better flying in and using interstate busses to move around. They are very affordable and make both Voyageur and Greyhound look like cattle wagons.
Have you two secured jobs yet, or looked into what kind of training is typically required? I would also recommend contacting some schools before deciding o a course.
Guy Courchesne
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inmexico
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 110 Location: The twilight zone
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I am currently in Uruapan, Michoacan. This is a very nice city in all respects. I do highly recommend it. I have been throughout Oaxaca and Chiapas. I agree about the driving at night thing - don�t. If you stay to the more populated areas however the dangers (risks) are minimal. A few years ago there was a lot of turmoil in the south but it has subsided dramatically over the past 4 years. As far as driving to Mexico, go for it. As long as your insurance is up to date you don�t have to worry about registering as a mexican vehicle. |
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Belmont
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Seniors hoping to teach ESL in Mexico |
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dave-in-deep wrote: |
My wife and I are trying to decide on an appropiate study option with a view to qualifying for TESOL in Mexico starting in the fall 2003.
We are currently looking at the International TESOL (Ottawa based) and Global TESOL (Edmonton based) certification programs, and we would appreciate any opinions (pro or con) on either of these organizations, as well as advice on which specialization options might be most beneficial in a job search.
We are both retired, I from a career in accounting and my wife after experience in retail, hospitality, and many years of aerobics and aquafitness instruction.
We would like to spend about six months in Mexico on the initial work term, and plan to return on a more permanent basis next year. We plan to drive to Mexico, and our (tentative) preferences for location are Oaxaca, Chiapas , or Michoacan.
Any advice on suitable sources of employment in these states, and on the optimum times to start looking for employment would also be welcome.
Dave
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I'm so curious. How did it all turn out? Did you go to Mexico? Did you get the TEFL qualifications in Canada or elsewhere? Let us know. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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You resurrected a 3 and 1/2 year old thread. I am betting email addresses (amongst other things) have changed in that time. |
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Belmont
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
You resurrected a 3 and 1/2 year old thread. I am betting email addresses (amongst other things) have changed in that time. |
But Dave's address hasn't changed. These people may still visit here. I'm interested in hearing about people who venture out and take chances when reaching retirement age. |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I want to know what happened, too  |
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Belmont
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: |
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I'm hoping they were able to realize their dream. However, I'm finding out that the older you are, the less likely you're going to get hired to teach in Mexico. A recruiter here in California says that many schools he deals with flat out refuse to take anyone over 35, some say no one over 30. This is very discouraging indeed. This recruiter says it's a "flexibility" issue and that many older people aren't able to adapt to the living and working conditions in Mexico, which seems odd to me. Maybe it should be stated more like: younger people will put up with more crap for very little money. We oldies will walk!
fyi: this guy charges $700 for being placed in a job...just for the summer! Permits, housing, trans, etc. are not included in this price. I don't know what he charges for placement in a year-long job.
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: I don't buy that. |
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Belmont wrote: |
I'm finding out that the older you are, the less likely you're going to get hired to teach in Mexico. A recruiter here in California says that many schools he deals with flat out refuse to take anyone over 35, some say no one over 30. This is very discouraging indeed. |
I don't believe what that recruiter says is true. I think it's more indicative of the types of schools he places teachers in along with the types of teachers he places. No qualified teacher of any age needs to pay that much money to find a decent job teaching in Mexico. Just my humble opinion based on 10 years of living and teaching in this country. I'm a ways past 30 (actually about double that age,) and I get job offers on a regular basis even though I'm not looking for more work. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Of our six recent hires, three were over 40.
It sounds like this particular recruiter is looking for pretty young people to place in McSchools. If you have real teaching ability you will not have difficulty finding decent work in Mexico. |
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