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StayingPower



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: HESS Background Check Reply with quote

I'm a little worried about this, as I had a misdemeanor over a year ago and wonder if it'll hold things up. They've hired me, but include a statement to the effect of you not having a criminal record. Sure enough, I do, but only a very slight misdemeanor.

What should I do? Tell them?
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lou_la



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd tell them. If it shows on your CRB check they'll find out anyway.
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kuberkat



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I see it, if you own up about a minor misdemeanour at least they know you are an honest person. Which I consider a very redeeming quality. If you don't, they might never really trust you, even if you are hired. Even in the Wild West (East?) of Taiwan, it's worth keepign your nose clean.

If you really want to check, you can look up one of the users on this forum, whois involved in the Hess HR department. His username is atiff and his name is Andrew Tiffany, and from his posts he seems like a very reasonable guy. No better person around to give you the lowdown.
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StayingPower



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I contacted one of the management and asked him if misdemeanors mean you're anathema. He hasn't yet replied. If he does, and asks me, then I'll tell him.

Sound okay?
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atiff



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

The purpose of Hess requiring a background check is to ensure we have safe schools and safe, responsible people working in them. We take each case of an existing criminal record into consideration during the hiring process, obviously. But generally, if it is minor and not habitual then you probably don't have to worry about it affecting your employment with Hess.
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dracotei



Joined: 22 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Tiffany,

My question doesn't have to do with a criminal record since I don't have one. However, since I have seen your post, I would like to ask a question that most of us don't really get to ask, especially not in an interview. If you have the time and the disposition, here's what I'd like to know.

As possible employees we are often asked why we would choose Taiwan, for instance, as a country, and more specifically, why HESS as our employer. In your opinion, why is Taiwan a country that ESL teachers should consider first when choosing their destination, and more importantly, why HESS? In other words, what makes your school different from the rest?

Thank you kindly
Chris
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Serious_Fun



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atiff wrote:
...But generally, if it is minor and not habitual then you probably don't have to worry about it affecting your employment with Hess.


A "moral turpitude", defined as:

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Disregard for established community standards of right and wrong in the commission of a crime, above and beyond the crime itself.


is grounds for either dismissal from, or non-acceptance in, the teaching profession in most countries. That could include shoplifting or even minor drug offenses (i.e. caught with a small bit of marijuana). I think that atiff, and his employer, are right on by stating that each case should depend on recidivism and type of offense rather than a blanket ban on individuals who may have made a dumb mistake.

But: if an applicant had a felony that is a different story. They would probably do better in politics! Wink


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atiff



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dracotei wrote:
Mr. Tiffany,

My question doesn't have to do with a criminal record since I don't have one. However, since I have seen your post, I would like to ask a question that most of us don't really get to ask, especially not in an interview. If you have the time and the disposition, here's what I'd like to know.

As possible employees we are often asked why we would choose Taiwan, for instance, as a country, and more specifically, why HESS as our employer. In your opinion, why is Taiwan a country that ESL teachers should consider first when choosing their destination, and more importantly, why HESS? In other words, what makes your school different from the rest?

Thank you kindly
Chris


Hi,

Actually, I don't think it is appropriate for me to say "Why Hess?". Mainly this is because it would be pretty much advertising, which Hess pays for on this site anyway, and is probably a breach of Dave's rules on the forum (can't find where these are at the moment....).

But for "Why Taiwan?", well, I think Taiwan is a great place because it pretty Westerner-friendly and you can make good money here in comparison to living costs, even in the big cities. Also, I think the girls are nicer here than Japan or Korea (easy to tell that I think that way - I married one Smile )
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blateson



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how exactly does an American, stuck in Asia (Taiwan) and not going home for say another year, get a background check done? On top of that, considering that family members or friends back home may not be effective at getting the job done either, how is the American supposed to have it done then?
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markholmes



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I (a UK citizen) applied for background checks from Japan and the UK for the purposes of immigration to Canada. Both were done quite easily through the respective countries trade offices in Taipei.
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blateson



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm American and all the rumors I've heard over the last 2 years about getting police reports and checks have all indicated it's just about a nightmare for us Americans. I haven't heard of anyone doing it while staying in Asia, all had to fly back to the US and wait out 90 days or more, go through loops and delays. Out of the question for me now. Also don't see family or friends fighting it out back home if it's going to be too difficult.
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atiff



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blateson wrote:
how exactly does an American, stuck in Asia (Taiwan) and not going home for say another year, get a background check done? On top of that, considering that family members or friends back home may not be effective at getting the job done either, how is the American supposed to have it done then?


Some states in the US allow you to do an online criminal record check. To be honest, I'm not a US citizen so I don't know how you do it exactly, but Hess does accept these. Hess also accepts criminal record checks done at police stations here in Taiwan. Going to a station which has a foreign affairs section (the biggest station in each city) will make getting this done easier. It's also cheap - NT$200 and your passport or ARC is all you need.
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