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william wallace



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: A fs.. Reply with quote
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laben18



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gee. You better go SOMEWHERE. That's what I call a NEGATIVE post.

Or as we say here in Thailand, SUPER negative.

20K a month should be doable almost anywhere here but that sure is peanuts.
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good evening Mr Wallace

Hello laben18


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Would Thailand allow me a bit of a respit from any of the above ?



I hate to say 'no' but I'm leaning in that direction.

A lot depends on where you end up teaching.


Thailand, for all of it's virtues, is not known as a hotbed

of progressive thinking when it comes to education,

although they are trying to improve on that.


Public K12 schools are overcrowded; up to 60 kids in a class,

& rote learning is how they handle those large numbers.

Creativity and abstract thought are virtually unknown;

cheating & apathy are common, so is grade fixing.


Friction between Thai and foreign staff is also prevalent.


If you're looking for a quality teaching experience,

I'd suggest that you apply to a Thai university,

freelance a little in the evening or weekends

@ 500 Baht per hour, give or take a Baht -

& don't accept less than 30K as a base.


If you're really serious about Thailand,

spend a few hours browsing the threads on

the TEFLWatch Thailand & Thailand Talk Forums

and then draw your own conclusions, by all means.


Thailand is a cool place to live

but the educational system needs work.

That's about as fair & objective as I can be.


I love it here, but I teach strictly company classes

of adults who are generally very eager to learn

and a lot of fun to have as students & friends.







Thailand teaching and travel resources available here :::: The Master Index Thailand ::::
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saint57



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wallace, I've heard you talking about a change for almost a year. Roll the dice. Take a chance. Just get the heck out of China. Go to Korea and bank some coin, then live like a king in Thailand the next year.
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Sgt Killjoy



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thailand cn be a great place. If you are out of Bangkok, 30,000 baht is about the standard min salary. I think in other posts, you mention your wife is Chines, is she a teacher? If so and you are serious about Thailand, pm me. I will get you in touch with someone who might be able to help you out.

Back to your question, many of the same problems you mention are found in Thailand as well. The market is hardly flooded in Thailand, but Thailand is about 2 to 3 years away from a flooded market. Much of the growth in teaching positions in Thailand are EP(English Programs) and even now, programs are begining to suffer from reduced enrollment and ridiculous parental expectations. Add to that, in the next year there will be even more EP Programs, great for hiring of teachers, but in a year or two, EP will begin shutting down.
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