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isle-teach



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:20 am    Post subject: International schools & ESL qualifications Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I've been an ESL teacher for more than 5 years, and now I'm looking into securing a job at an international school. I have an MA Ed (Applied Linguistics) and a CELTA.

The international school websites I've looked at talk about teaching qualifications. I was wondering whether a PgC Tesol would land me that dream job, or whether I have to go for a PGCE (Sec) and then specialise in ESL? Any advice would be appreciated!Very Happy
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jammish



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably need to get a PGCE in the subject you want to teach. For instance, if you want to teach maths at an international school, you'll have to do the Maths PGCE. And so on and so forth.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To teach at international schools, you usually need a teaching license valide in your home country plus some experience.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
To teach at international schools, you usually need a teaching license valide in your home country plus some experience.


It's usually a two year minimum in your home country before being considered for a position at an international school.
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isle-teach



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice everyone! PGCE here I come! Very Happy
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jammish



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck wrote:
Glenski wrote:
To teach at international schools, you usually need a teaching license valide in your home country plus some experience.


It's usually a two year minimum in your home country before being considered for a position at an international school.


Not necessarily. My friend did a Primary PGCE, then a year's teaching in London, then off to an international school in Moscow.
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jammish



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuck wrote:
Glenski wrote:
To teach at international schools, you usually need a teaching license valide in your home country plus some experience.


It's usually a two year minimum in your home country before being considered for a position at an international school.


Not necessarily. My friend did a Primary PGCE, then a year's teaching in London, then off to an international school in Moscow.
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The_Hanged_Man



Joined: 10 Oct 2004
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Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently teach at an international school in Kuwait. While it is true that is possible to land a job without prior teaching experience or even a certificate I would not recommend trying it.

First of all, unless you are looking for a tough to fill, high demand position (eg AP Physics or Calculus) you would not be a very attractive candidate. As a result, the only schools that would consider you would be the rather dubious ones that have trouble recruiting. Trust me you don't want to work at one of those places regardless of the location.

Secondly, International Schools tend to be very hands off in how they manage their teachers (at least compared to how it is in the States). For experienced teachers this is great as you pretty much get to do what you want as long as it is within reason. However, for a newbie teacher this can be a serious problem as you probably won't get very much support. As a result you could end up floundering and extremely frustrated with very little guidance.

In the end, I think the best course of action for someone looking to break into international school teaching is just to suck it up for a few years to get the certification and at least one year of full time teaching experience.
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ktodba



Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you get the PGCE and go through the qualifying period (12 months in UK education) you are offically qualified to teach - any subject your school requires that is. End of story - this is why most international schools seem to want 2-3 years experience, they are looking for the finished product rather than a rough diamond. I'm a qualified business teacher and having seen cover teachers trying to replace subject specialists I can understand why international schools want experience. Remember that they are targeting the upper echelons of their countries and are probably charging a lot - have a look at British / international schools in the countries you're interested in for more info.

Good luck.
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