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work hours & pay rates in Mexico City

 
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: work hours & pay rates in Mexico City Reply with quote

Questions for those of you living and working in DF. I know I could probably find this answer if I researched some old posts here but I'm being lazy today. Couple of questions.

1) I have 2 years teaching ESL at a Community College here in the States and a CTEFL from Mexico City when I lived there eight years ago. What's the current pay rate at the schools in DF?

2) How many hours can I expect to get per day or per week?

My wife is from Mexico City so I won't have to worry about rent or transportation which is very good, but I would like to know if it would be possible to make around 80 or 80 pesos an hour and get at least 6 hours a day.
3) Is it true that at many schools a person works in the morning then gets around three hours for lunch and then goes back to teach some in the early evenings?

4) Would I be able to find a school that would not require travel? I would like to teach without having to travel around the city.

Once again I'm putting my house on the market, hopefully it will sell soon so we can get to DF. My wife and I are tired of the rat race mentality here in the States, especially Dallas.

Thanks for any information!

John.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lazy...I know how you feel. The weather here today lends to it well. Here's my lazy, quick answer.


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1) I have 2 years teaching ESL at a Community College here in the States and a CTEFL from Mexico City when I lived there eight years ago. What's the current pay rate at the schools in DF?


Onsite language schools - 35-100 pesos per hour, 30-40 hrs/wk max. Some are salaried. Maybe get yourself 10,000 per month, but no more.

Offsite language schools (to companies) 75-200 per hour, max 20-30 hr/wk max. Lots of travel about the city

Private prepa/colegio - 6-15k per month, varies on hours, not very high turnover

Unis - more money, not very high turnover

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2) How many hours can I expect to get per day or per week?


See above.

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My wife is from Mexico City so I won't have to worry about rent or transportation which is very good, but I would like to know if it would be possible to make around 80 or 80 pesos an hour and get at least 6 hours a day.


Depends on where you work, but yes is the right answer.

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3) Is it true that at many schools a person works in the morning then gets around three hours for lunch and then goes back to teach some in the early evenings?


Common at many language schools, inevitable when teaching at companies.

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4) Would I be able to find a school that would not require travel? I would like to teach without having to travel around the city.


Yes, but if a language school, expect much lower pay.

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the rat race mentality here in the States, especially Dallas.


I hear you, but you can fall into the same traps in Mexico City. That's why Leigh insists on Karaoke and Lucha Libre (at the same time?)to relieve stress.
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: salaries in DF Reply with quote

Thanks for the information Guy. Sounds like I'll need to do a combination of things to make more money. My wife may work part time also teaching Spanish or perhaps English.

She's been teaching Spanish at the Community College where I work for the past six years.

If I have an FM-3 (I believe that's what I'll need to work) sponsored by the school I'll be working for, would I be able to teach privately? I'll probably look you up when I get to DF Guy so you can help me get a teaching job.

You recruit also, right?

Thanks again!

John
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't recruit directly for schools, but I can point you in the direction of work.

It's pretty common here for teachers working in language schools, on or offsite, to supplement with private classes. Better pay.

Technically, I imagine that you need an independent FM3 to legally teach private classes. I don't think a school-sponsored FM3 gives you the right to teach privately. I've never heard of migra cracking down on such things though. You'll be fine in this respect.

Come to one of our get togethers...there are always other people to give you leads on jobs too.
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: pay in DF Reply with quote

Thanks Guy. I may be able to meet you and some other teachers in December. I'll be there during the Christmas Holiday. I was thinking about trying to get some students for private classes from the school I will be working at but I'm not sure if that would be a good idea.

What do you think? I do that here at the Community College where I teach and it's not a problem. No one cares. But I'm not sure how that would look in DF.

John
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At language schools, it's a big no-no to recruit your own private students from theirs. Most language schools offer such private classes themselves, be they at companies or onsite.

If you're working at a prepa, colegio, or uni, you can probably do it, but best to ask first. Some will even offer you very decently paid private tutoring hours with their students...300 pesos per hour at one elementary all-girls school I know of.

But, l'll let someone else pipe in here with ideas...
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jfurgers



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: working in DF Reply with quote

I thought they wouldn't like it in DF. The private school deal that may pay 300 an hour sounds good though.
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