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El Seguro -- regional differences, etc..

 
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mep3



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: El Seguro -- regional differences, etc.. Reply with quote

I've read a lot of pretty bad things on here about El Seguro, and I have no reason to doubt that most of it is true. I am wondering if anyone knows of regions of Mexico where El Seguro is actually fairly decent, or if anyone has had decent experiences with El Seguro. Thx .... Mep
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had good experiences with them and acceptable experiences with them. I've never had a bad experience, but I chalk that up to knowing when NOT to go to them. I know a good, honest private gp who charges 100 pesos an appointment. I go to him as often as I go to seguro. I've had two minor surgeries at seguro, both times I consulted with a private doctor before going under the knife. I decided not to have my babies there, but used their services for medication that I needed through out the pregnancy and they paid my maternity leave, because I dutifully attended their appointments which consisted of me telling the doctor what my privat ob-gyn had said at my last appointment with him and the seguro doctor copying that onto my chart.
If you play them right, they are okay. I think most of the people working in the seguro system are good people trying to do the best with what little they have, but the recognise that they can't do as good of a job as they should. If you let them know that you know that, they will help you when they can and let you know when you are better off poping into the private clinic down the street.
I also suspect the service in terms of human treatment is better in the smaller areas, that way you get to know each other, in the big cities you are just another in a long line of pacients. But the facilities are probably better in the larger cities. Our local IMSS hospital just got its first ultrasound machine three years ago. Surprised
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mep3



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Would it be okay for something major there, like a heart operation or chemotherapy?
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

mep3 wrote:
Would it be okay for something major there, like a heart operation or chemotherapy?
Would it be 'okay' to get those anywhere? Razz
IMHO, the local IMSS hospital is competent for a broken leg but not a broken skull. One of our teachers recently found out she has a life-threatening illness, and left permanently so that she could receive treatment in her home country.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

mep3 wrote:
Would it be okay for something major there, like a heart operation or chemotherapy?


Many may disagree, and it might hurt Mexican national pride, but I would have to strongly say no. Get yourself good insurance that covers evacuation to your home country if you have serious health concerns.

Medication, on the other hand, is good and cheap here. I've met two AIDS sufferers who relocated to Mexico specifically because of this.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

mep3 wrote:
Would it be okay for something major there, like a heart operation or chemotherapy?


I have to admit, I know next to nothing about chemo, and haven't really heard much about cancer in Mexico. I do know several heart patients on both sides of the boarder. I think a heart operation would depend. 1st if it were an emergancy situation? I'd say no. No good. I live in a city of about 50,000 the district, including the villages has a population of 150,000. There is no ICU in our IMSS. Shocked AND our local IMSS hospital has one general surgeon and about 4 surgery residents. There is a very good chance you'd be attened by only a resident for an emergancy surgery. The cardioligist comes from Oaxaca once every two weeks and sees like a gazillion patients. If you had a heart problem and need an operation under non emergancy situatuion, IMSS would pay your expenses to go to Oaxaca City or even Puebla City to see the specialist there and be treated there. Obviously we're talking time, a lot of time.
Are there any heart operations that would be considered "routine"? My two minor surgeries were the kind of thing they just talk the students though, the kind of thing the charaters in Grey's Atanomy whine about having to do. I'd be perfectly happy to have that kind of surgery, for free (well, at no additional cost) at IMSS again.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go to Doctor Simi. $25 pesos a consult! You can't beat that.
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Polly0607



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what he charges for brain surgery? Very Happy

Seriously, this is a very big issue for everyone. In bigger cities you have more options, but there is no easy option. You can spring for private insurance to put your mind at ease. GNP is the company I use.

You can also sign up for seguro on your own. Here is a link, though a little old, it might give you some ideas.
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/llcm/llcm1002.html

I have seguro as well, but I haven't used it yet.
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Polly0607



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a more recent link if you are interested in signing up for the seguro social.

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/KLM/klm0906.html

I think it is a good idea if you are a foreigner living in Mexico. You will need a long form birth certificate and a lot of patience.
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