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kait



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Advanced Degrees Reply with quote

I know that if a person sticks around long enough, it feels like every new thread is a rehashing of some other thread. So, now it's my turn to give you deja vu.

I know it's a good idea to get an advanced degree, but it's hard to know which degree to pursue. Does it matter if a person studies TESOL, TESL, Applied Linguistics or any other subject that addresses second language acquisition?
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kait



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's not an exciting thread, but I'd really appreciate it if someone would help me out here. Thanks.
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Calories



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe no one knows! I certainly don't. Common sense would tell me that any of those degrees would be okay and that you should research each program and decide which one is most interesting to you but, really, I don't know!
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've certainly discussed this on the Middle East forum before ... try a search ...

A storm in a tea cup ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should all be equally valued for teaching jobs.

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kait



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you looked through adverts for university level positions around the world, and were trying to think about which degree was most requested in those ads - I might guess that it would be an MATESOL.

Most employers are a bit flexible - but some some aren't. My general feeling would be that an MATESOL would open more doors - and close fewer doors, than any other graduate degree.

Just my opinion.

I have an M.Ed. (and a PGCE in TEFL) - and have been ruled out by only a few very selective employers - but have been given fair consideration by the great majority. The few that ruled me out - wanted ONLY MATESOL grads. So . . . if I had my choice and was going back to school - that is what I would go for.
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Advanced Degrees Reply with quote

kait wrote:
I know that if a person sticks around long enough, it feels like every new thread is a rehashing of some other thread. So, now it's my turn to give you deja vu.

I know it's a good idea to get an advanced degree, but it's hard to know which degree to pursue. Does it matter if a person studies TESOL, TESL, Applied Linguistics or any other subject that addresses second language acquisition?


You gotta also take into account the amount of money you're gonna spend getting the degree. Is it worth it? There are many people who work overseas with just a simple BA in a related field like English Lit or some social science.

A lot of people are spending their hard earned money without realizing how little qualified one has to be to get a job in some language school in Korea or some such place.

If you're planning on staying overseas all your life, maybe getting qualified makes better sense. If, on the other hand, you'r gonna be gone for a year or two, I'd suggest you save your money and get no qualifications what so ever. My first job was in Korea. All I had was a BA in English Lit; they never knew the difference!
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GWUstudent



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: one more question on this topic Reply with quote

TedKarma - you mentioned you have a MA plus a tefl cert. Did this open doors to University positions for you? And in what countries?
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DainaJ



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to think about a degree program that offers you certification in your home country as well in case you wish to return there to teach. This is what my DH is doing - an MEd in Bilingual and Bicultural Ed. with teaching cert. so he can come back to the US to teach after our stint abroad in a couple of years. He previously worked abroad with just a CELTA.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: one more question on this topic Reply with quote

GWUstudent wrote:
TedKarma - you mentioned you have a MA plus a tefl cert. Did this open doors to University positions for you? And in what countries?


Actually an M.Ed. I did land one job where they were seeking only MATESOL people - the PGCE got me in the door for the interview. The interview got me the job.

The degree and experience alone got me college/university jobs in Thailand, Taiwan, and Korea. The school seeking MATESOL folks was in Saudi.
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GWUstudent



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Just one more question Reply with quote

TedKarma -

What exactly is a PGCE and how does it differ from other TEFL certifications? I'm just curious.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Just one more question Reply with quote

GWUstudent wrote:
TedKarma -

What exactly is a PGCE and how does it differ from other TEFL certifications? I'm just curious.


A "PGCE" is a Post Graduate Certificate in Education - a program that follows your degree. It is an intensive program that will take six months full time - a year part time. A much higher qualification than the standard four week certificate programs.

The PGCE is a common program in the UK - not so well known in the US.
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isle-teach



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across this thread...

Tedkarma~You mention you have a PGCE in TEFL. May I ask, where did you do it? I've been looking for ways to upgrade my qualifications, and that certainly would open doors for me, too!

Thanks in advance
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a PGCE in TEFL at Herott-Watt University in Edinburgh - but I completed it in 1996 and I am not sure if they still offer it. I just now wandered around their website and couldn't find it - but it is not really a user friendly website.

http://www.hw.ac.uk/
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