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Gyms/Weight Rooms in Japan

 
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Gyms/Weight Rooms in Japan Reply with quote

I was wondering if most Japanese cities had a gym with a weight room. Obviously big cities like Tokyo, Osaka et al are going to have them, so I'm referring more to smaller cities (100,000-300,000 people). I don't require a lot of fancy equipment, just free weights and dumbells.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might get a better answer if you stated which city you are interested in.
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Guile



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for sure u can find at least one in any city... probably a bit more expensive that back home tho. the one in the city i lived in was about 5000 ~ 7000 yen per month. there were also some where u could pay per visit, about 400 yen for the day.
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How big was your city Guile, and how was the equipment? I heard a rumour that you're required to take off your shoes in the weight room (!?!) at most places...that sounds like a liability suit waiting to happen
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nakanoalien2



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you will have any problem finding a city gym. Of course you may have to ask around to find the place, though.

The quality, equipment, and fee of the gym varies widely from town to town. I'm not sure how the funding is doled out for these places, but certainly not all public gyms are created equal.

You should be able to find dumbells and basic free weights. I used to use one of the smallest gyms I've ever seen (Shin Yurigaoka) and they had:

-free weights (incl. bench, squat, dumbells)
-5 or so treadmills
-10 or so bikes
-a 1980s universal type weight machine (for lats, triceps, etc)

If you are a really big guy, I suppose it's possible that the weights provided are not heavy enough, but I doubt it.

As for sneakers, you have to wear them. You take them off in the stretching area. Also, you can't/shouldn't wear your outdoor sneakers indoors. It's a pain - I've got 2 really nice pairs now - one for jogging, one for the gym.
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easyasabc



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: Gyms/Weight Rooms in Japan Reply with quote

Canuck2112 wrote:
so I'm referring more to smaller cities (100,000-300,000 people). I don't require a lot of fancy equipment, just free weights and dumbells.


I live in a city of about 120,000 and the gym I go to is pretty well equipped. They have lots of stuff although they have more machines than they do free weights. It costs 6500yen a month for a full membership that includes use of all the gym, pool aerobics etc. And it's open until midnight which is cool if you don't have time during the day.

My gym is the same as someone else mentioned as far as shoes. You have to have a pair of sneakers that are only used inside. It's kind of a pain but just one of those Japanese things you have to go along with.
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Vince



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nakanoalien2 wrote:
I used to use one of the smallest gyms I've ever seen (Shin Yurigaoka)...

Was this at the public sports center?

I've been going to Tipness for the past couple of years, because it was one of the few gyms I found that had a decent freeweight section. I use the freeweights and stationary bike, but they have other things too. My daytime membership (opening to 5:00 PM) costs about Y7,000 a month, which is average for well-equipped facilities. One of the biggest advantages of Tipness is that you can use any of the gyms in the region. The freeweight area isn't as big as what you saw back home (i.e. one squat rack, and I've yet to see a seated calf machine in Japan), but you can get a good workout.

If you're into supplements, be prepared for sticker shock. A canister of whey will cost you about Y6,000.
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easyasabc



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
I've yet to see a seated calf machine in Japan


Sorry for digressuing a bit here but what is with the lack of calf machines in Japanese gyms. Like you, I've never seen a seated calf machine or standing calf machine and I really wish I had.

And do the vast majority of people at your gyms use the machines/weights in a dangerously wrong way that makes you cringe if you watch them? They do at my curremt gym and two previous ones.
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's a problem world-over, not just Japan. Just last night (here in Canada) I saw this kid doing this bizarre rotating arm curl manouver, where he spun his trunk around as he attempted to curl. He looked like some sort of malfunctioning garden sprinkler Smile

easyasabc wrote:


And do the vast majority of people at your gyms use the machines/weights in a dangerously wrong way that makes you cringe if you watch them? They do at my curremt gym and two previous ones.
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Vince



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

easyasabc wrote:
Like you, I've never seen a seated calf machine or standing calf machine and I really wish I had.

A few of the Tipness branches have standing calf machines, but no seated calf machines. Many of the gyms don't have incline barbell benches either. There are alternatives for standing calf and incline benches, but there's nothing that can replace the seated calf.

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And do the vast majority of people at your gyms use the machines/weights in a dangerously wrong way that makes you cringe if you watch them? They do at my curremt gym and two previous ones.

Yeah, I see people doing lat pulldowns with their abs, barbells wavering enough to make you seasick, you name it. Not so much at Tipness because it's too expensive for the kids and the staff is pretty good about correcting dangerous situations, but I've seen a lot of it at other gyms.
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nakanoalien2



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Vince - I was talking about the Shin Yuri public gym. It's a straight 2-3 minute walk past the movie theatre and the soccer fields.

I moved out of the area and live in Nakano now and go to the XAX gym in Hatagaya. This gym has a seated calf machine by the way. It's a bit more expensive than the Tipness in Nakano, but has alot less people in it at any given time.

There is a real cultural aspect to the equipment in gyms. It has to do with what a good looking or healthy body is supposed to be in that society. I've noticed massive amounts of free weights in the US. Treadmills and bikes are mainly girl machines in my small US hometown, while I have trouble getting on a treadmill in Japan or Europe. In Japan, ask any woman about her calves. It is a downright complex in Japan to have remotely thick calves. There is even a term "Daikon Ashi" for those with thick calves/no visible ankles.
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Vince



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nakanoalien2 wrote:
Yes Vince - I was talking about the Shin Yuri public gym. It's a straight 2-3 minute walk past the movie theatre and the soccer fields.

I went there once to practice iaido in their dojo. Although it wasn't a problem at the dozen other public gyms I've used, the guy at the Shinyurigaoka one refused. I told him the sword wasn't sharp and that I'd been doing it for a few years, but he wouldn't budge. I called the foreigner assistance line at the town hall, and they called the gym. The gym said that I was of course welcome to use the dojo, provided I booked it three months in advance and paid the fee for private use of the dojo--but anybody else could come in and use it too, and I had to stay out of their way.

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I moved out of the area and live in Nakano now and go to the XAX gym in Hatagaya. This gym has a seated calf machine by the way. It's a bit more expensive than the Tipness in Nakano, but has alot less people in it at any given time.

There's an XAX in Shinyurigaoka. I'll have to check it out again. When I was shopping for a gym a couple years ago, they had only machines.

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There is a real cultural aspect to the equipment in gyms.

I've noticed that too. Most Japanese guys want something like Bruce Lee's build, but there are a few thick guys where I work out.
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