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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Ordering in Restaurants Reply with quote

I am so fed up with shite from waiters in restaurants when you speak to them in good Turkish. Example:

Lunchtime in kebab restaurant. I go in and order soup and d�ner in perfect Turkish without any problem. Halfway through eating the waiter says would you like to drink something in Turkish and I say tea please. He looks at me increduously and says "tea" in apallingly accented English. I say tea, now please so he understands that I want it with my meal and not afterwards. He says "tea" again in English and other people are starting to give me crazy foreigner looks so I raise my voice and say "�ay tea yes" several times and he walks away shaking his head but does bring me the tea.

It is humiliating when they speak crappy English despite the fact that you order in perfect Turkish and then everyone around you either stares at you or joins in.

I am just glad he didn't ask for English lessons.
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Henry_Cowell



Joined: 27 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The description "perfect" is itself quite telling. The waiter probably thinks his English is "perfect" as well. Cool
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tekirdag



Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard many teachers complain of the same. Teacher speaks Turkish, Turkish person tries to speak English. Makes it harder to improve one's Turkish, I guess.

I am sitting in the opposite corner. I get no English spoken to me. Ever. I get little old ladies asking me to read the prices on jars of pickles because they don't have their glasses. I often get asked for directions. School's secretary asks me to translate to the other teacher...and so on...blah blah

I figure Turks are determined to keep me here. They all had a meeting or something and decided to make me learn Turkish whether I wanted to or not. Noone is letting me be lazy. Wink It is good for me, I s'pose! I tried to resist. Resistance is futile. I will become Turk.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tekirdag wrote:
I will become Turk.


You already have.
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once the coach got me lost in Greece by skipping the stop I'd requested (or, more likely, assuming that I was wrong in my request and in fact wanted to go to Athens). Admittedly it was in not the best Turkish, but I'd been discussing the problem and it's possible solutions with the driver for about 10 minutes, ignoring the woman 3 rows back who kept 'helping' in 'English' that was way crappier than my Turkish. Suddenly after 10 minutes the driver suddenly asked if I spoke Turkish.

I've started getting the same as tekirdağ even though I don't look remotely Turkish. A few months ago I ran the scale the scale in bulk foods section of the market for awhile-- no employees were there and I couldn't be bothered to wait so as I was finishing weighing my walnuts, 5 or 6 other people had lined up, pushing their bags at me. It was the automatic kind of scale, where you enter the type of food and it gives the price. Even though I had to ask the name of the food I was weighing they still assumed I knew best. It was kind of cute.

At least you got the tea, thrifty. Sometimes they get so amused with the exchange, they forget what you were asking for.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think taxi drivers are the worst. They have this mental block.foreigner so I can't understand So when you tell them you want to go to somewhere really difficult to pronounce like.... Taksim they just look at you as if you have horns in your head.
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, or they just assume you want to go to Taksim no matter what you actually say. Apparently, 'Beylikd�z�,' 'Hadımk�y,' or 'Bah�elievler' all sound very much like 'Taksim' to the taxi driver ear...
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually got in a taksi once and did want to go toTaksim(from Besiktas). He understood me. Told me he had heard of Taksim(had seen it on the tv) but didn't actually know the way!!!
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justme wrote:
Yeah, or they just assume you want to go to Taksim no matter what you actually say. Apparently, 'Beylikd�z�,' 'Hadımk�y,' or 'Bah�elievler' all sound very much like 'Taksim' to the taxi driver ear...


Serves us right for living in Beylikduzu.
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justme



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
I actually got in a taksi once and did want to go toTaksim(from Besiktas). He understood me. Told me he had heard of Taksim(had seen it on the tv) but didn't actually know the way!!!


That's kind of cute! Guess a driver like that, you should be glad he spoke Turkish...
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