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durks
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: Schedules and other stuff |
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Hello,
I am considering moving to Taiwan to teach in January and was wondering what kind of schedules you all work?
I ask because I see a lot of jobs advertised with part time hours and wondered how you guys worked round this? Do most people sign up for 8 � 4 jobs that pay 60 � 65000 and then look for p/t work on an evening/weekend?
It seems that most schedules advertised cross over in some way, for example; 9 � 6 / 4:30 � 9. I did notice a couple of jobs in Tainan that could be combined one was 7:30 � 4:30 for 62000 and then a p/t 6 � 9 at 700 p/h. I�m thinking doing these hours will be no fun at all and I�ll probably be burned out in a couple of months! How easy/difficult is it to pick up weekend work and what sort of money can be made working weekends?
Do I even need to work overtime? How far does 62,000 really go? I don�t think I�ll be the largest spender to be honest, I reckon I will live mainly off street food and have a few beers on a weekend. My main expense will probably be the occasional weekend away, the purchase of a scooter and obviously my rent.
If you choose to work a few p/t jobs, how easy is it to find a school willing to put their name to your arc when you are only there on a p/t basis?
One last thing (for now)! I know the school wont pay your flight money but do they pay for the visa run to Hong Kong?
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BigWally

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 765 Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:11 am Post subject: Re: Schedules and other stuff |
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| durks wrote: |
Hello,
I am considering moving to Taiwan to teach in January and was wondering what kind of schedules you all work?
I work a very nice 2-9 M-F schedule.
I ask because I see a lot of jobs advertised with part time hours and wondered how you guys worked round this? Do most people sign up for 8 � 4 jobs that pay 60 � 65000 and then look for p/t work on an evening/weekend?
I would stay away from part time jobs, as usually your ARC only allows you to legally be employed by 1 school. Its nice to have the security of a full time job as well. Mind you, there are illegal options available (ie. Kindys) and non-illegal (ie. privates) which can help to supplement hours.
It seems that most schedules advertised cross over in some way, for example; 9 � 6 / 4:30 � 9. I did notice a couple of jobs in Tainan that could be combined one was 7:30 � 4:30 for 62000 and then a p/t 6 � 9 at 700 p/h. I�m thinking doing these hours will be no fun at all and I�ll probably be burned out in a couple of months! How easy/difficult is it to pick up weekend work and what sort of money can be made working weekends?
Take it easy at the start, and get acclimatized to the city & living abroad. Once you feel comfortable then start looking for other options once you've made some connections and know where to look. The best jobs are rarely on the internet.
Do I even need to work overtime? How far does 62,000 really go? I don�t think I�ll be the largest spender to be honest, I reckon I will live mainly off street food and have a few beers on a weekend. My main expense will probably be the occasional weekend away, the purchase of a scooter and obviously my rent.
Overtime!?! HAHAHAHA! Such a thing does not exist here! $62,000 is ok, but its dependant on your hours worked. You should be ranging about $575(low end)/hour - $625(very happy end)/hour as a 1st year teacher, unless you have some spectacular credentials, but if thats the case go teach at a university for $900+/hour.
If you choose to work a few p/t jobs, how easy is it to find a school willing to put their name to your arc when you are only there on a p/t basis?
Like I said previously, it can be done, but it certainly is a more difficult route.
One last thing (for now)! I know the school wont pay your flight money but do they pay for the visa run to Hong Kong?
If you enter the country on a 60 day visitors visa, you shouldnt have to do a visa run. That is if you have a school that you know you want to work for and someone from the organization can sponsor your visitors visa. Otherwise, I've heard both sides, but the majority of stories i've heard lean toward the school not paying for the visa run.
Thanks in advance
Cheers/Ganbei! |
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durks
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Schedules and other stuff |
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Hi Wally,
Thankyou for taking the time to reply to my questions.
I evidently don't understand the whole 60 day visa situation though as I thought that I would have to:
* Arrive on a 60 day visa
* Call a good recruiter like Dewey and let them know where I am looking for work.
* Walk around schools handing out my CV.
* Find a school to sponsor my arc
* Sign contract
* Go to Hong Kong with contract, degree, transcripts and passport in order to obtain a 12 month visa.
Is this wrong?
NO OVERTIME! That's lame! If that is the case, how much of a risk is teaching privates or teaching at multiple locations? Can you gain permission from the employer named on your ARC to teach at other schools? Or is it a out and out no no.
Thanks again |
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KaiFeng
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 89 Location: At the top of the food chain.
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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I posted some thoughts in a recent forum about maxing income from training and other language-related work. I'd encourage you to check them out.
If I was low on cash, this is what I would do: go there, get some gig somewhere to get a work permit, and then start networking and approaching companies for corporate work. If you present yourself as a corporate trainer, not a "mere" English Teacher, you can easily break out of the low-income bracket and charge a lot.
But we all have to start someplace. But don't let your beginning substitute for your goal.
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BigWally

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 765 Location: Ottawa, CAN (prev. Kaohsiung "the Dirty South")
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dangerousapple
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 292
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:43 am Post subject: |
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KaiFeng's advice is good, but he is forgetting that it only applies to people who have been here for a number of years. The vast majority of people who come here have absolutely no teaching experience whatsoever. To get the kind of money he is talking about takes a number of years to build up teaching experience. Any newbie who tries to follow his advice is asking for trouble, as most schools/companies/individuals are tired of dealing with people who demand much but provide little.
If you are a new teacher and follow his advice, you will be yet another faker, pretending to know what you are doing, and making it harder for everyone to earn a good living. Put your time in, learn the ropes, and figure out where you excel as a teacher. That's when you can start working the system. |
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KaiFeng
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 89 Location: At the top of the food chain.
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dangerousapple wrote: |
KaiFeng's advice is good, but he is forgetting that it only applies to people who have been here for a number of years. The vast majority of people who come here have absolutely no teaching experience whatsoever. To get the kind of money he is talking about takes a number of years to build up teaching experience. Any newbie who tries to follow his advice is asking for trouble, as most schools/companies/individuals are tired of dealing with people who demand much but provide little.
If you are a new teacher and follow his advice, you will be yet another faker, pretending to know what you are doing, and making it harder for everyone to earn a good living. Put your time in, learn the ropes, and figure out where you excel as a teacher. That's when you can start working the system. |
QFT
I agree with everything DA says here. We're kind of looking at it from different perspectives, though. I'm talking about where you should aim for the future, and he is talking about where you should be aiming right now. I absolutely agree with him about putting in your time and learning the ropes. And always be alert for ways to work the system.
I'd reiterate one thought. Don't think of yourself merely as an "English Teacher". Be alert to all your other skills, and all the other things you can do to make money and create value for clients. |
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