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Warrior10

Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Toronto, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: How much will I stand out (another ethnic question) |
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Hello,
I'll be heading to Japan within the next 3 months and while I realize the amount of foreigners is increasing, it still is very much a homogenous place, even in the big cities like Osaka or Tokyo.
I'm of Indian descent, however I am Canadian. In Canada the society is quite diverse so no one really looks at you more than once.
How will it be for me, any insights? Good or bad, whatever - culture shock is a good thing. Will I inspire any stares/curious looks/contemptuous looks in Japan? My gf is Chinese but she may visit me later on. Are they much Indian people in japan? How about Korea?
Thanks in advance. Cheerio. |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it. |
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seastarr
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 76
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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You will get some looks I'm sure. I am caucasian and I got quite a few looks. I don't know that you will get anymore looks than anyone else that isn't Japanese. Most of the time, I didn't mind the looks, they usually came from kids. Adults are not so obvious about it, you might get a glance here and there. The only thing that ever really bothered me was when older ladies wouldnt sit beside me on the train and then give me the evil eye because I was sitting beside the only empty seat. I lived in a mid-sized city. The other teachers that I knew were mostly a caucasian mix of some sort. There were a couple of teachers who's ethnic makeup was Asian. In a few cases Japanese staff was not so nice to them, especially one girl I worked with who was half Japanese. I think it had to do with her being mixed maybe. Being Canadian, this suprised me because we are quite diverse here and I rarely notice anyones ethnic background. While I was in Japan, I noticed more because there were so many less people. I may have this stat wrong, but I think Japan is 99% Japanese. I would make sure you go in with the idea that it is an experience. If you got offended everytime someone whispered or looked at you, it would make for a very long stay. Usually people were just curious I think. Usually saying you are Canadian is enough of an answer for most. I had a few students ask me about my makeup because I am half Jewish and quite dark, with blue eyes, but it was always just because they were curious, not because they wanted to judge me for it. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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With the influx of a lot of people working in IT there are a lot of Indian people or people of South Asian descent in Tokyo these days- I have a Pakistani-Canadian friend who lives here and she has never mentioned being stared at more than any of us get stared at, which is less and less these days. You might be surprised by the number of visibly non-Japanese people in Tokyo nowadays- it is increasing all the time.
11 years ago when I first arrived here I often saw kids pointing me out to their parents (I'm Caucasian), but even the little kids hardly give me a second glance these days. In a small village somewhere like Tohoku it is definitely a different story. |
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Venti

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Kanto, Japan
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
With the influx of a lot of people working in IT there are a lot of Indian people or people of South Asian descent in Tokyo these days- I have a Pakistani-Canadian friend who lives here and she has never mentioned being stared at more than any of us get stared at, which is less and less these days. You might be surprised by the number of visibly non-Japanese people in Tokyo nowadays- it is increasing all the time.
11 years ago when I first arrived here I often saw kids pointing me out to their parents (I'm Caucasian), but even the little kids hardly give me a second glance these days. In a small village somewhere like Tohoku it is definitely a different story. |
You're right, Aspara. I live closer to Yokohama than Tokyo and I see people from all over other parts of Asia everyday. It seems that some days I overhear conversations on the street that are spoken in languages other than Japanese more often than those in Japanese. Yeah, it's not Toronto, Vancouver, or L.A., but the Tokyo/Yokohama area is quite multicultural. Besides, people in this area usually seem to be so preoccupied with rushing from one place to another and not really interested in the people around them. Big city life, I guess.
As for Tohoku, yeah, it's quite a bit more old fashioned. But I lived in one of the smallest towns in Miyagi-ken and there was a couple from Ghana, Africa working at one of the local high schools. They seemed to be considered as pillars of the community.
Long story over with. Canuck's right. OP has nothing to worry about. |
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japan_01
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 89 Location: Gifu Ken
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Japanese people RARELY if not NEVER speak what they are thinking. If you don't analyse too intensely you will be fine. |
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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If you go out to Tokyo, you should be fine. There are foreigners and English and English speakers all over the place.
However, if you go out to the inaka (countryside) where generations of families have lived there for decades and decades...you might get stares, and a lot of them. It's annoying at first, but then you get use to it.
You might get stares in Tokyo...but don't worry about it. They might just be admiring how cool and good looking you are. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Check out debito's site (David Arwinkle) and that will give you some idea of what doesn't happen . |
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Deicide

Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 1005 Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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canuck wrote: |
Don't worry about it. |
Your avatar is too big...cut it down to size... |
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fion
Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 69 Location: tokyo
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I dont want to be negative, but am going to pass on a comment made by the guy in the pakistani supermarket where I buy basic necessities when I have time. He reckons business is very bad because some of his customers are being stopped by the police maybe three times between the station and the shop. So the customers give up on this nonsense and stop coming to the shop. These customers are, mainly, highly qualified computer guys from Madras, but the Japanese police, not knowing the difference, assume that the customers are Osama bin Laden and give them are hard time.
This, remember, is hearsay. It doesn't happen to me, because even a Japanese police officer would have a hard time mistaking me for Osama bin Laden, but it's possible that it happens to south asian people more often than it should.
Japan, with its low birthrate, needs qualified foreigners. But maybe some of the local police boxes have not really got the message yet. |
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Warrior10

Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 21 Location: Toronto, Canada.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: thanks |
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Thanks for the responses, folks. More and more I understand that you just have to wait and see and whatever happens, it's what you make of it. Standing out can be cool, just depends on how you look at it. |
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