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babar6789



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Is Taiwan for noobs? Reply with quote

Hi,
Just got my CELTA, thinking of Taiwan as my first TEFL destination. Here are some questions.

Does anyone recommend it as a destination for a first time teacher?

Don't fancy living in Tapei, any other places worth a shot?

What kind of quality of life can i expect?

Cheers
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Is Taiwan for noobs? Reply with quote

babar6789 wrote:
Hi,
Just got my CELTA, thinking of Taiwan as my first TEFL destination. Here are some questions.

Does anyone recommend it as a destination for a first time teacher?

Don't fancy living in Tapei, any other places worth a shot?

What kind of quality of life can i expect?

Cheers


In my experience, Taiwan is what you make of it, so everyone's Taiwan is different. I can only speak for myself, but I enjoy a better quality of life than I could ever hope to have back in Canada.

Perhaps you could tell us why you don't fancy Taipei. Is any other place worth a shot? That depends on what you're looking for.
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blateson



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bar I think that's a great question. I came here Aug 20, and to be honest I haven't found Taiwan good for newbs, even for a guy having 3+ years of tefl experience in other countries before this one. However I do think your plan to check into one of the medium or smaller cities will be a much better bet as a) I sense they really "need" teachers there and b) it likely won't be so saturated.

But ultimately I would advise you or anyone to trust your gut intuition the most and go in that direction.
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babar6789



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps you could tell us why you don't fancy Taipei


Not a big fan of mega/capital cities to be honest. I'm from Scotland which is genrally pretty rural although I do want to live somewhere with a bit more life about it.

Still not sure about Taipei, although I'd probably accept a job there if I was offered.

Thanks for your feedback.
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babar6789 wrote:
Not a big fan of mega/capital cities to be honest.
I understand where you're coming from, I've always lived outside the big cities and traveled in when necessary.


babar6789 wrote:
I do want to live somewhere with a bit more life about it
My suggestion would be to go to a small town near a big city. That way you get the small-town living, but can enjoy what the city has to offer when you feel like it. And, as blateson mentioned, there will be less competition for the jobs.
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babar6789



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice.

Any idea on how i can get a job teaching adult learners in Taiwan? I was going to go through a recruitment agency called Saxoncourt but it looks like they recruit for primary schools (in Taiwan) and thats not really my cup of tea.

Thanks again, any advice is much appreciated.
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple of problems teaching adults exclusively.

First, adults work, so they're only available in the evening. That makes it difficult to turn it into a full-time job.

Second, you're not going to find many adult students in a small town. That means you need to be in the big city.

If you want adult learners try David's English Centre
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babar6789



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i'm sure a mix of teenagers and adults in a medium sized city would be sweet.

You got a website for David's English Centre? I can't find it on google.

Cheers.
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dangerousapple



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you want to teach teenagers? The education system here sucks the life out of youngsters, and by the time they hit junior high school most of them have turned into sullen little robots. It can be frustrating!
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babar6789 wrote:
You got a website for David's English Centre? I can't find it on google.
I don't know if they have a website, but they do advertise for teachers on www.tealit.com from time to time.

The branch in Taoyuan is currently looking for someone.

http://www.tealit.com/ad_categories.php?section_id=29&content_mode=3&search_mode=5&content_id=16276
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babar6789 wrote:
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Perhaps you could tell us why you don't fancy Taipei


Not a big fan of mega/capital cities to be honest. I'm from Scotland which is genrally pretty rural although I do want to live somewhere with a bit more life about it.

Still not sure about Taipei, although I'd probably accept a job there if I was offered.

Thanks for your feedback.


Kaohsiung isnt a bad option. There as a fairly strong ex-pat community, with many bars & night clubs. With a limited understanding of Mandarin you can easily get by, as many restaraunts & bars have English speaking staff. True, the pollution may be worse than other parts of the island, but its a very short drive to some very beautiful get a ways. (Kenting, Maolin, Pingtung, etc)
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babar6789



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you sure you want to teach teenagers? The education system here sucks the life out of youngsters, and by the time they hit junior high school most of them have turned into sullen little robots. It can be frustrating!


Sure, but my training (CELTA) has only taught me how to teach small groups (<20) of adults. I've no idea how to teach large classes of primary kids.
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babar6789 wrote:
Sure, but my training (CELTA) has only taught me how to teach small groups (<20) of adults. I've no idea how to teach large classes of primary kids.
The first step is to avoid schools where the class size is more than 15. There are plenty of schools that have classes around that size.

The second step is to remember you are not really there to teach. Your primary function is to keep the kiddies entertained. Any learning that occurs is a by-product of whatever entertainment you provide.
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poof



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to what it's all about - being thrown into the croc pit with no experience of kids. Most teaching jobs in Taiwan for noobs will be in private institutes or government schools teaching kids. I think many of us started out in such a way. It's part of the learning curve as a teacher.
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jibbs



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taipei is a concrete jungle, not an attractive place, but it has more amenities for foreigners, some good restaurants, easier to function without knowing Mandarin, maybe a better social scene, but more competition With other foreigners for work. It also has the most work available, but may be less stable than a small town where you will more likely be appreciated and needed.

If possible, some of the areas on the outskirts/suburbs near Taipei are good places, much nicer in scenery and cleaner air, and only a short trip into the jungle for fun and western stuff.
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