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ghastly
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 Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: requirements for work visa |
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Hello,
I am considering applying for a teaching position in China. I have noticed that an increasing number of job advertisments are stating that a degree is required to obtain a work visa.
Can anyone tell me if I can work legally in China without a degree?
I am a native speaker with a TEFL certificate and 3 years' teaching experience. It's my intention to apply for work at a language centre rather than a public school or a university.
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: Re: requirements for work visa |
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| ghastly wrote: |
| Can anyone tell me if I can work legally in China without a degree? |
The answer is both yes and no. Why? Do a search.
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| I am a native speaker with a TEFL certificate and 3 years' teaching experience. It's my intention to apply for work at a language centre rather than a public school or a university. |
You'd still need to be legally licensed to teach even if you were to teach at a language training centre. |
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Shan-Shan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| You'd still need to be legally licensed to teach even if you were to teach at a language training centre |
Not unless you like being illegal, and potentially stuck on a lower wage but with absolutely no recourse should your employer decide to farm you out to his buddy on the sheep ranch.
I still see quite a number of jobs where a "degree is desired". Like many here have said, schools can forge a degree for you to obtain a real visa. Still, it seems like a lot of trouble just to teach English in China -- for both the teacher and school. I'm sure that there is no shortage of recent grads willing to work for 4000RMB for 25 "real" hours a week.
NOTICE: There is no glamour, no adventure doing ESL. Work is Work. Now, repairing the Hubble space telescope, or digging up ruins in Egypt: that might be adventure coupled with work. |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: requirements for work visa |
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| ghastly wrote: |
Can anyone tell me if I can work legally in China without a degree?
I am a native speaker with a TEFL certificate and 3 years' teaching experience. It's my intention to apply for work at a language centre rather than a public school or a university. |
My take on all of this is like this.
To be a fully legal teacher in China you need a degree as in order to obtain a work permit to teach you need to meet the requirements of 'a foreign expert'.
What you will find however is that some schools (particularly, but not exclusively, private training schools) will obtain the legal work documents for you on the basis that you are employed as something other than a teacher. Perhaps a consultant, perhaps a specialist, a trainer, an office boy/girl. The requirements for all of these types of positions can vary hence the fact that some people have all the legal documents and work at schools as teachers even though they don't have a degree.
You will find that all of this varoes from province to province as I am sure that you will see with proceeding posts - but overall I believe the above to be true in most of these cases.
Provided that you have all of your documentation in order it probably does not matter all that much what your official position is. I think that it is always best to do things the right way for your own well being, but plenty of people teach here in China without any legal woes. |
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