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Fourth Saudi Technical Conference and Exhibition, Riyadh Dec
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007



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Fourth Saudi Technical Conference and Exhibition, Riyadh Dec Reply with quote

This may be useful to some of you in Riyadh.

There will be a Saudi Technical Conference and Exhibition, Riyadh, 2 -06/12/2006

Location: Four Seasons Hotel Riyadh

Web site: http://www.stcex.gotevot.edu.sa/

In addition to the technical topics, there will be two workshops on the teaching of English in technical colleges:

1. Teaching The English Article System
By
Dr. Peter Master
Department of Linguistics and Language
San Jose State University, USA

2. ESP, CBI, and The Role of Grammar
Dr. Peter Master
Department of Linguistics and Language
San Jose State University, USA
The Presenter will describe the two major English teaching paradigms of CBI (Content Based Instruction) and then the role of grammar in each domain, with special attention given to the notion of "incidental grammar.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be there 007. Not by choice I can assure you. You'll have little trouble spotting me but how will I know who you are? Any clues?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van Norden wrote:
I'll be there 007. Not by choice I can assure you. You'll have little trouble spotting me but how will I know who you are? Any clues?


Oh, difficult question! May be you are right, I might have little trouble spotting you, especially if you are going to attend the workshop of the English teaching by Dr Master, but the problem with me, is that you will find at least 99 persons who look like me! So I think it will be difficult for you to spot me, but may be I will give you a hint for that later on.
BTW, if you are really coming, it will be appreciated if could bring with you Scot47, Dmp, and Dr Bebsi, because I love to meet them in the conference, and see their faces. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not attend 'scientific' conferences on TEFLology or 'Applied Linguistics'. Nor do I take part in black masses, football games or group therapy sessions. Or Tiddleywinks or meetings of the Glasgow Rangers Football Club Supporters' Association.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This may be useful to some of you in Riyadh.


Well, I dunno.

Sometimes these 'events' are men onlyl
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are there women only events? I guess they don't get advertised... because too many men would turn up.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So are there women only events?


All the time. Women's colleges, for example, frequently have 'seminars' and the like which of course are open only to women. Also, many other 'events' (granted Riyadh is hardly the cultural capital of the world, or even of KSA) often have seperate days for male and female visitors.

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I guess they don't get advertised... because too many men would turn up.


They do get advertised - the question of men turning up wouldn't be an issue. For a man to enter a female only event would be akin to a man walking into a woman's dressing room anywhere else in the world - only much more outrageous and much more difficult. But having lived in Qatar, you are surely familiar with taboos in conservative Gulf socieites, no?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course I am. As usual I was just being silly. A group of women meeting Is it going to attract the native 19 year old youths or the middle-aged/elderly expats?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Master is quite literally the "master" of teaching the use of articles in English. He's devoted a significant part of his career to this topic. How amazing is that?? He's based here in northern California.

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/pmaster/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A group of women meeting Is it going to attract the native 19 year old youths or the middle-aged/elderly expats


As I've said, neither. Such gatherings are routine and entirely unremarkable. Though you do get bored young men hanging around girls' schools in the hope of catching a snatched glimpse of a young lady's face...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
...Sometimes these 'events' are men onlyl


According to conference program, there will be a Hall reserved for women who attend the conference, and the lecture will be transmitted live using closed TV circuits. The female speakers will also use the TV circuits to present their lectures without being seen by the male audience.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
..... Though you do get bored young men hanging around girls' schools in the hope of catching a snatched glimpse of a young lady's face...


Sometimes, these young men who are hanging around girls' schools, are caught by the Muttawaas, and I have heard terrible stories about them! They took them to a secret room without windows, and put them with rats and sometimes snakes, and they will beat them until they see the stars during day!! And you will be lucky if you do not get any funny marks in your body!!
Of course, when they get out of that black room, you will not see them anymore near the school.

One day, a Philipino went to see his girlfriend in secret, but by chance the owner of the house saw him near his house talking to his girlfriend, the Saudi called the police and they put the poor Philippino in prison for 3 days without anybody knowing where he was. Fist time, we though he had an accident, but later we knew about the whole story. He was lucky, and was released by his employer and he was obliged to sign a letter not to repeat his action in future.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have heard terrible stories about them!


You seem to hear a hell of a lot of 'terrible stories'. And you also seem to believe them all, every detail, without question. Rather a dangerous habit in the K of SA, I would think. Did you believe everything you read in the "Princess" books too?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
..You seem to hear a hell of a lot of 'terrible stories'. And you also seem to believe them all, every detail, without question. Rather a dangerous habit in the K of SA, I would think. Did you believe everything you read in the "Princess" books too?


First, I did not, and do not read books like the one described above!

2. My stories are true, and not from a Hollywood film, the Philipino was my friend and he described to me what happend to him in the prison. So, I think really, they are terrible stories.

3. Be assured that, I will not tell a story if it is not true and accurate.

3. I understand you frustation and nuisance, may be becasue you are a woman, you are not faced or familiar with this type of discussion within your female entourage!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you will be lucky if you do not get any funny marks in your body!!


I might be being naive here, as far as Saudi is concerned, but...

You meant "lucky if you do not get any funny marks on your body", right?! Shocked
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