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elaina
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Conversational Road Block |
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I am currently teaching conversational english to a new resident of Canada. During class, she is a fireball!!! She speaks, laughs and debates with absolutely no problems. She is confident in public situations with her english ie: ordering coffe, lunch, talking to her daughters school. However, when her husband is around she doesn't speak any english. He tends to push her to speak and corrects her every time she speaks. He feels that since she "obviously" is not using her english skills, that there may be a problem with the teacher. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address this issue? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Other than punching the husband (just kidding), I would say that you might want to talk to him in private. Tell him you can see that his wife is somewhat (an understatement!) inhibited by his presence, and that he shouldn't do the correcting. You should. Besides, she should feel more comfortable making mistakes with the teacher around, and the key is communication anyway. Also, tell him that you have seen her as a real fireball in class, so you know she can do things better than when he's around. Hint, hint, hubby. Stop browbeating her.
If she is vying for a translator/interpreter position, that might make the situation a little different, where accuracy is more important than mere communication.
I assume the husband is Canadian. What nationality is the wife? |
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elaina
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Actually they are both from Venezuela, he is here on a work visa with a large corporation and she is along for the ride. (I agree with the beating though:) |
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Jetgirly

Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 741
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Could you send home a report card? Make it look like you send it home with every student and outline her particular in-class strengths. I think that approaching the husband is somewhat inappropriate (I mean, college profs don't approach their students' spouses). I think you're going to have to tread lightly here; you don't him to "lose face". |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you could also video or at least audio tape her in class and send a sample copy to the husband and that should dispel any doubts the husband has about her abilities (and ours). |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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gaijinalways wrote: |
Maybe you could also video or at least audio tape her in class and send a sample copy to the husband and that should dispel any doubts the husband has about her abilities (and ours). |
I would be very careful with this approach. You should never record a student without his/her consent. If you are to show this recording to the husband then you have to do so with his wife's permission. It is also not clear whether the husband will be as impressed with her abilities as you hope he is. What if he were to watch the recording with her and paused the recording periodically to admonish her about what he perceives she's doing wrong. |
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DainaJ
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 62
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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This is between you and the student. If the student has a problem with you, then deal with the student. If the wife has a problem with the husband, then none of your business. If he's paying the bill and decides to switch teachers - not a lot you can do.
I think any adult would be incredibly offended if you went to their spouse to talk about their school progress. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I think DainaJ's advice is spot-on: this is a problem between the student and her spouse, and you should stay out of it if it doesn't impact the class.
I don't understand why the husband is in her class. If he is a student put him in a different class, and if not, he shouldn't be there interfering. |
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Tuttifruitti
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 75
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I completely agree with the last two posts - you do your job well and you don't have a problem with her in your class.
The other possibility is that she may not want him to know just how good she is. I've seen it happen before - a wife/daughter playing down her abilities because she doesn't want to stop going to classes. |
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elaina
Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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They are not in class together. It is outside of class that the issues happen. They invited me over for dinner the other night and she didnt speak two words in English because everytime she spoke he made a point of correcting her tone etc. A few weeks ago, it was the same thing. I ran into them at Starbucks and chatted for a while. Not two words out of her. I just dont want to have her feel like she is not progressing on account of him. I agree with the point about not speaking with him as he is not my student, but I don't know how to make her feel better about her skills witout putting the husband down. |
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sallycat
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 303 Location: behind you. BOO!
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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i can see why this upsets you, but i honestly don't think there is anything you can do. you can't sort out her marriage problems.
in class, make sure you make sure she knows how good she is (although i get the feeling you already do this). that's about all you can do. |
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Venti

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Kanto, Japan
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Conversational Road Block |
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elaina wrote: |
I am currently teaching conversational english to a new resident of Canada. During class, she is a fireball!!! She speaks, laughs and debates with absolutely no problems. She is confident in public situations with her english ie: ordering coffe, lunch, talking to her daughters school. However, when her husband is around she doesn't speak any english. He tends to push her to speak and corrects her every time she speaks. He feels that since she "obviously" is not using her english skills, that there may be a problem with the teacher. Does anyone have any ideas on how to address this issue? |
Could it be that she's playing a role that she believes is the correct one? You know, give the husband the satisfaction of being the boss and show him that he's the superior one in the relationship? It could be cultural or just the nature of the dynamic of their relationship. Anyway, just a thought. |
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