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lisamelvin
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 Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: from UK moving to New York City |
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Hi everyone
I was wondering if anyone from the UK had managed to get teaching work in NYC. I have a degree (MA), a teaching certificate and about a year's teaching experience.
I've been doing some research on visas and the like, but, to be honest, I'm finding it pretty complicated. I mean, I can understand it all in theoretical terms, but in practise, is it possible for someone from the UK to survive in New York? I have this real desire to go there, to do various things, using teaching to support myself, but I'm not sure how likely it is that I would get a visa, enough work hours and so on.
If anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful.
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Brooks
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| depends what you mean. For English forget it, but for math or science, it is possible. |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: from UK moving to New York City |
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| lisamelvin wrote: |
Hi everyone
I was wondering if anyone from the UK had managed to get teaching work in NYC. I have a degree (MA), a teaching certificate and about a year's teaching experience.
I've been doing some research on visas and the like, but, to be honest, I'm finding it pretty complicated. I mean, I can understand it all in theoretical terms, but in practise, is it possible for someone from the UK to survive in New York? I have this real desire to go there, to do various things, using teaching to support myself, but I'm not sure how likely it is that I would get a visa, enough work hours and so on.
If anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful.
Lisa |
I am a New Yorker...hehe...I can't work in the EU and you guys can't work in the USA...want to trade? Since you are from the UK and probably know London; NY is comparable in price. EFL is a dead end. Maths and Science may be an option though...once you get past the visa nonsense...lass, forget it check out Portugal or Sweden...you are an EU person....  |
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lisamelvin
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Yeah, but there must be people in New York from the EU doing SOMETHING. I mean, it's not like America is filled with Americans and nothing else...
As I said, I'm not really wanting to go there to teach, specifically, more just using teaching as a way to pay the bills, if there's anything else I could do to survive, I'd gladly do that.
I'm sick of Europe, really, I'm a writer and being surrounded by non-English-languageness is starting to get to me. |
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Jizzo T. Clown
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think you'll be able to live on a teacher's salary in NYC??  |
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lisamelvin
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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no, i expect to come on dave's and get a load of negative comments from career teachers who like to act like anyone who has a question is a moron  |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| lisamelvin wrote: |
| no, i expect to come on dave's and get a load of negative comments from career teachers who like to act like anyone who has a question is a moron |
He has a point; NYC is the most expensive city in the USA... |
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lisamelvin
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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That may well be, but, at the end of the day, people live there. I'm a single person, no responsibilities, I don't have to support anyone. All I aksed was if it was possible to get a visa, practically speaking.
People did the same thing when I asked if it was possible to move to Berlin. Everyone said, it's impossible, you'll never get a job, you'll never afford the taxes etc. But I'm living here ok.
Dave's used to be great...what happened? Why is everyone so blimmin' negative?
Anyway, thanks to people for their help, I still want to live there so I'll check it out further on other sites. |
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Deicide
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| lisamelvin wrote: |
That may well be, but, at the end of the day, people live there. I'm a single person, no responsibilities, I don't have to support anyone. All I aksed was if it was possible to get a visa, practically speaking.
People did the same thing when I asked if it was possible to move to Berlin. Everyone said, it's impossible, you'll never get a job, you'll never afford the taxes etc. But I'm living here ok.
Dave's used to be great...what happened? Why is everyone so blimmin' negative?
Anyway, thanks to people for their help, I still want to live there so I'll check it out further on other sites. |
As I said I am from NYC and lived in Berlin. Berlin ist eine tolle Stadt and much more accessible than NYC. Remember as a EUer you can live anywhere in the EU; the visa thing is the main, real issue. I told you, pm me if you want specifics...alles Gute |
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Jizzo T. Clown
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lisamelvin--
I'm not trying to be negative--just realistic. Is it impossible? Not at all. Is it difficult? Most likely, especially if you're coming alone and won't have anyone to help you out.
People don't always want to hear the truth, and get defensive when they do hear it. If you want people to sugarcoat everything for you then you have come to the wrong place.
And if I thought your were an idiot I would've told you so. As it is, I see you for what you are: someone who needs advice. |
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Brooks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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look, there are British people in New York. Usually they have work visas, and they may work in business or at a British pub.
But some come on the tourist visa and overstay and end up working illegally.
If it wasn`t hard for Americans to get jobs in the UK I am sure that it would be easier for Brits to get work in the US.
After 9/11 things got tighter.
If you really want to work in the US you have to have a skill in demand:
engineering, medecine, good at computers, etc.
The UK wants skilled people too. |
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taikibansei
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| lisamelvin wrote: |
Yeah, but there must be people in New York from the EU doing SOMETHING. I mean, it's not like America is filled with Americans and nothing else...
As I said, I'm not really wanting to go there to teach, specifically, more just using teaching as a way to pay the bills, if there's anything else I could do to survive, I'd gladly do that.
I'm sick of Europe, really, I'm a writer and being surrounded by non-English-languageness is starting to get to me. |
One option you may consider is applying to graduate school (say a PhD program) in the States. Assuming you were accepted, you could then use any free time to build local contacts and/or find a permanent job. However, I would not recommend entering a US graduate program without a scholarship of some sort, and it's very difficult for non citizens to qualify for one.
As I mentioned in another post, it's becoming impossible to live in or near NYC on a single, junior faculty income--regardless of your field. However, it's usually possible to supplement this income with part-time work, especially in ESL. Of course, you'll end up working both days and nights, which will cut into your writing (and other things).
Hope this helps. |
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kololam77
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: ? |
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? - What?
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Deicide
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Don`t cross the Atlantic....... |
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| kololam77 wrote: |
With all due respect.......you might simply consider staying in your own country. I find few......if any.....Europeans who are truly interested in going to the U.S.....they would much rather bash it. Therefore you will probably be very alone. Sure....you`ll get by with your cute accent for a little while (or is it the Americans who speak with the accent?), but soon enough you will quickly discover that Europeans are better off in Europe and Americans in America - or working together in alternative parts of the world on neutral turf.
Also......why not spend time trying to convince your government that it would be in their best interest to allow Americans easier access to the labor market than Muslims (not all of course) with less than honorable motives.
Cheers.....sorry for the truth.  |
Unless you are a European disguised as an American... |
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