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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Steps to Finding Work in Poland Reply with quote

1. Get a CELTA.

2. Arrive in Poland in September.

3. Look for a job in the city of your choice. The best jobs are not advertised on the net.

4. Find out everything you need to know concerning getting a work visa in Poland. Being from outside the EU will make things a little more complicated, but it shouldn't stop you from coming to Poland.

5. Go to http://www.google.pl

Type in "szkola jezykow obcych" and send out your resume/CV to every school you can find, once every two weeks (a lot of schools eventually throw out old resumes every few weeks, thinking that the teacher has found a job since then).


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afowles



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're moving to a bigger city, www.ang.pl can also be quite helpful. Also good for getting private lessons! But the site is in Polish, so you may need a helper.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6. Although they may not be very attractive when you first arrive, it's always a good idea to go to expat bars and ask around about English schools.

English teachers like talking about English schools.

So it's an easy way to find out which schools are worth going out of your way for and which aren't even worth a phone call.

It's even possible to find some private students in a bar or maybe a date. Wink


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Alex Shulgin



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregoryfromcali wrote:
Although they may not be very attractive when you first arrive, it's always a good idea to go to expat bars and ask around about English schools.

English teachers like talking about English schools.

So it's an easy way to find out which schools are worth going out of your way for and which aren't even worth a phone call.

It's even possible to find some private students in a bar or maybe a date. :wink:


This is good advice.

But you probably won't find a date or private students in a bar full of expats.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But you probably won't find a date or private students in a bar full of expats.


It's been done before. Wink
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darkside1



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am thinking about teaching in Poland this summer (I am a secondary teacher with tefl cert and experience). As I am currently in full time employment I basically want to work in July, or mid- July to mid- August (ie during my summer holidays). I am not looking for longer term employment.

I was thinking about sending cvs to schools in the Krakow area and coming over in April for a visit to see if there was any interest. I have a fair amount of teaching experience including summer school experience and I can offer extra curricular activities like football coaching and guitar playing. I don't speak Polish but I hope to have learned the very basics by April.

Is this a viable strategy? What sort of pay and conditions would be on offer?
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, with the cost of flying to Poland being so low these days it is definately worth a try.

There are a number of schools who close for the summer but I think that is slowly changing in Cracow as there is more and more happening in the summer time.

When I first arrived there were only three hostels in Cracow and now there must be over 20.

If you can meet with the directors of the school and they can match your face to your resume then you should be in good hands with your qualifications.

There are over 70 schools in Cracow so you may want to give yourself a whole week (which brings me to my next tip), just be sure it isn't during any Polish holidays.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7. Buy a Polish cellphone or simcard and be sure to put the phone number on your resume.

Sometimes a school will need to a teacher that same day to work as a substitute or have an opening and simply take the first teacher they hear from who qualifies for the position because the class starts the next day.

Although the latter may sound unusual I've had a school hire me without an interview to do some incompany (off sight business) courses that started the next day. Yet when I found out how far I had to travel it was no wonder they were willing to take the first person who said yes.

Either way if the school can reach you by simply picking up the phone it may give you just the edge you need to get the job.

At my first job, I was originally a substitute teacher at a small school. But after that first lesson they kept calling me back for more and luckily I was able to make enough money from the hours they gave me to stay in Poland long enough to land a full time job.


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Kymro



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkside1 wrote:
I am thinking about teaching in Poland this summer (I am a secondary teacher with tefl cert and experience). As I am currently in full time employment I basically want to work in July, or mid- July to mid- August (ie during my summer holidays). I am not looking for longer term employment.

I was thinking about sending cvs to schools in the Krakow area and coming over in April for a visit to see if there was any interest. I have a fair amount of teaching experience including summer school experience and I can offer extra curricular activities like football coaching and guitar playing. I don't speak Polish but I hope to have learned the very basics by April.

Is this a viable strategy? What sort of pay and conditions would be on offer?


To be honest I don't believe it is a viable strategy.

Many schools close down in the summer.

Those that don't are working at much reduced capacity.

There is a large pool of unemployed teachers seeking employment.

You are coming at the worst time possible when there is little or no demand for your services.

(Of course you may get lucky and prove me wrong).
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many schools close down in the summer.


That is true. A lot of schools do close.

I didn't want to discourage you, but it would be a good idea to have a back up plan.

But since the price to fly on easyjet is so low it's definately worth a shot especially since you have a lot of qualifications.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, thanks for the feedback. Now that there is a direct low cost flight from Glasgow to Crakow I don't feel I will be risking much and I believe Poland is an interesting country to visit even if I draw a blank on the summer jobs front. I basically have a summer job in the Uk if I want it but I would like to expand my horizons a wee bit.

Actually there are quite a few Poles now working in Glasgow and since WW2 there has been a sizeable Polish community here with their own club who have a website: www.sikorskipolishclub.org.uk
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8. Get a job at school that uses the Communicative method.

Although it may be easier to find a job at schools that do not use this approach and although other approaches may be just as valid for learning English, the communicative method is the most widely recognized method of teaching English in the world.

Therefore once you have completed a year at a school that uses this approach it will very easy to get a job at another school that uses the same approach.

Besides which, after completing your CELTA training it takes about another year to get comfortable with using the methods you have learned as well as being comfortable standing in front of an English class.

After that you can click on any of the ads on Daves and be fairy sure that you can go anywhere in the world and teach English.

Because the Communicative method is not just about what schools use. It's about giving your students a goal so that they use the languauge you are teaching rather than just staring at what is written on the board or repeating after a teacher.

In the Communicative method you make language come to life.


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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkside1 wrote:
Firstly, thanks for the feedback. Now that there is a direct low cost flight from Glasgow to Crakow I don't feel I will be risking much and I believe Poland is an interesting country to visit even if I draw a blank on the summer jobs front. I basically have a summer job in the Uk if I want it but I would like to expand my horizons a wee bit.


Stick with your summer job in the UK. I for one could do without the competition for Summer work.. I'm living & work here on a permanent basis, and am filled with plenty of stress at the thought of the up to 4 month break I have to face over Summer...

To expand your horizons, come to PL for a 2 to 3 week holiday. Smile

If you want to work, come in September and look for work thru winter. That's an experience!!
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often receive questions like this from the board. So with the emailer's permission I'd like to share my answers for others who may have the same questions.

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I was wondering what it is like to teach there?


About 85% of the classes are for university students. But there are also business classes and classes for children.

The students are demanding though. They want a teacher who can lead a lively conversation, teach grammar and help them to pass exams. Basically they want it all. If it's too fun or too academic they'll start to complain, so it has got to be an even balance of both.

In fact that's probably another reason to teach here. Because afterwards you can use this combination to teach anywhere and you'll probably find that your students will be satisfied.

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Are there any places in Poland where I can actually get certified? What kind of certification would I need?


You can get a CELTA at International House. They are several through out Europe and a few in Poland.

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What kind of money do you make (USD?), and what are your living expenses?


Outside of expensive Warsaw, the pay is usually over $1000 a month. That's enough for a good lifestyle, groceries, rent, a couple of nights out a week and some money to do a little traveling to nearby countries, but you probably won't save much unless you eat all your meals at home.

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Is it hard to find an apartment? Is it possible to have internet in your home?


Neither presents a problem.

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Also, to experience the culture I would really like to study the language. Are there any inexpensive language schools there? Where you able to pick it up at all? Will I have a lot of problems if I don't speak the language? I would like to have some english speaking contacts (as not to be entirely alone), did you have troubles with this?


Unfortunately Polish lessons aren't usually cheap since they're aimed at foreigners.

Polish grammar is very very hard to learn. As hard as any other Slavic language. But don't let that put you off. Just know that unless you do an intensive it may take a long time to be able to hold a conversation in Polish. But some foreigners do pick it up, but it's usually only through hard work.

On the other hand, Poland's quickly becoming like most other countries in Europe where you can get by on English alone. If you ever have any trouble you just need to find someone who looks like they have an education and more than likely they'll be able to speak English.

As far as other English speaking foreigners you probably won't have any trouble finding yourself in good company in most major cities. In small towns though you may be more limited with your selection of English speaking friends. No worries though, Poland usually attracts a good crowd. FTs teaching in Poland are usually here because they like Poland, as the money isn't usually all that great when compared with the Middle East and Asia.

If you are interested in Central and Eastern Europe you'll like Poland. You may even find yourself spending a few years here instead of just one. I know I did.

For better or worse, unlike some of its neighbor's Poland has managed to retain it's culture. The religion, the cuisine, the holidays and customs of Polish culture are still alive and well here. Although it is changing very fast.

Good times,

Gregory
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wojtek_pl



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkside1 wrote:
I am thinking about teaching in Poland this summer


What about your plans darkside1?

I�m a native Pole located in Krak�w since January this year. (Previously 7 years in Warsaw) If you are going to come here I may be of some help, maybe. Plenty of my Polish friends teach English in private schools and sometimes they inform me about some summer language camps (usually two weeks long) where they need native speakers. However I don�t know anything about financial conditions etc � I can just ask here and there. Similarly as my teacher friends I am a graduate of English Teacher Training College but I decided to �pursue my career� as a translator and this is what I do in Krak�w.
If you are really determined to learn Polish maybe I can also help or just give some advice.

PS.: Actually it�s my first post in here so I want to say that I enjoy reading all your observations about Poland, Poles and how you as foreigners perceive all those cultural matters and other things
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