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vallillo1983



Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: gay teachers Reply with quote

Just wanted to know, where do you guys work? As a gay male I want to meet like-minded souls!!
Do you guys work for NOVA or Shane?
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious????

Gay teachers have no "home central". They work wherever they can find employment, just like non-gays.
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ironopolis



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Are you serious????



Click the link and scroll down a bit for the answer to your question Laughing Laughing


http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=35112
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GWUstudent



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: ? Reply with quote

I agree with Glenski...I don't think there is a particular school or place that you could consider a gay headquarters.

Just go about your life in Japan as you would anywhere else. You will meet all kinds of people, gay, straight, whatever. I imagine that the bigger cities would have more gay clubs than a rural area.
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japan_01



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Location: Gifu Ken

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be interesting to see the numbers of gay male teachers in Japan.
Many of my students ask questions in regards to my sexuality. They tell me that many of the male foreigners living in Japan are gay. I am in no way suggesting that ESL male teachers are all gay but apparently there are quite a few. (According to alot of my students)
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BradS



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know quite a few at the school I'm working for.

Seriously though, there's not much in the way of descrimination against homosexuals in Japan. A lot of Japanese people don't seem to know much about gay people though and in fact I've met a few who say that there are no gay people in Japan. (they obviously don't watch tv here).

Any Japanese staff or students who you tell you're gay will more likely give you a "so gay people are real" shocked response than a "Eeewww, you're a dirty man" descriminatory one.

In general the closer you work to Tokyo (specifically Shinjuku) the more "normal" reactions you'll get.
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kikyou21



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Kyushu Reply with quote

for some reason there seem to be an awful lot of gay JETs in Kyushu and western Honshu. i don't know if they did that on purpose or what's going on with that.... but to answer your question, Fukuoka and Oita seem to be "gay teacher central." good luck!
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Hoser



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to meet up with gay teachers then you ought to go visit ni-chome in Shinjuku.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're likely to meet gay teachers wherever you go, although best not to shout about it. Eikaiwa life is all about keeping your head down (if you'll excuse the pun).

At my eikaiwa branch (AEON) there were two full time teachers, the Japanese head teacher and an emergency teacher all gay men. Also one lesbian.

Head for Shinjuku ni-chome if clubbing is your bag.
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Miyazaki



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: My Father's Yacht

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Are you serious????

Gay teachers have no "home central". They work wherever they can find employment, just like non-gays.


MOD EDIT

Gay men are not only disproportionatley represented in the ESL / EFL world but they're also heavily represented in places like NOVA and Berlitz.
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seastarr



Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Kyushu Reply with quote

kikyou21 wrote:
for some reason there seem to be an awful lot of gay JETs in Kyushu and western Honshu. i don't know if they did that on purpose or what's going on with that.... but to answer your question, Fukuoka and Oita seem to be "gay teacher central." good luck!


I lived in Kitakyushu, between Fukuoka and Oita, and I didn't meet any gay Nova teachers...I was suprised how poorly represented they were in the area...I had a couple of out of the closet students, but I didn't meet any teachers. I heard from a couple of students in voice that Fukuoka had a gay bar, but all of the other students in voice were shocked and amazed that there were any gay people in Kyushu, let alone Japan. Parts of Kyushu are quite rural and not so open in areas that people from bigger cities are.
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emypie



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go live in a rural area, you will not find 'like minded' people out in the boonies!!!!

I live in Tokyo and I have met LOADS of gay teachers (and other professions too, of course). But don't expect to find some kind of gay support group at your school. Homosexuality is not openly encouraged or approved of in Japan.

Seems to me that you CAN do whatever you want in Japan and people will simply turn a blind eye, which is both a good thing and a bad thing. Good, in that you can have some privacy and nobody will harass you. Bad, in that you may be treated as invisible.

You just gotta know where to go - in Tokyo the 'gay district' is Ni-chome, in Shinjuku, but it's a gay district in terms of entertainment. But when I say 'district' it's not like how in Toronto a lot of gay people live in a specific region or neighborhood that is easily identifiable. I don't think you'll find that in Japan.

But if you go to a big city that you KNOW has a vibrant gay community and you frequent it often, you'll be fine.
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zignut



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Kyushu Reply with quote

seastarr wrote:
I lived in Kitakyushu, between Fukuoka and Oita, and I didn't meet any gay Nova teachers...I was suprised how poorly represented they were in the area...


I'm not trying to single you out, or provoke you, Seastarr, but comments like these are always funny to me. Most people seem to think that they'll be able to tell a person's sexuality just from working with them, or even just having a drink now and then at the local teacher-favored izakaya. This just isn't the case - there are many, many gay folks who don't evince the stereotypes that would tip most people off.

A comment like the one above would imply that the person knew every Nova teacher in the area well enough to have spoken with them about their sexuality. I think people generally put way too much stock in their own gaydar.
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seastarr



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that statement, however, I assumed we were talking about people who were out of the closet, since the poster was talking about meeting other like minded individuals.....I did know most of the teachers in my area quite well...Nova was also quite gossipy and I think that if any of any of the teachers in my area were openly gay, everyone would have known, just as everyone knew if someone was dating a student or another teacher. I dont presume to know anything about anyone's sexuality, its quite a private matter....I was just sharing my experience in that I did not know (of) any gay teachers in my area. I have a lot of gay friends and many of them do not appear to be sterotypically gay, but they are proud of their sexuality and make no qualms about sharing it...I didn't meet anyone like this in my area in Japan...that was all I was saying.
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zignut



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm certainly prepared to agree that Nova is gossipy. You've got me there. Smile

I'm gay, and I worked in Tokyo and then Aomori-shi at several Nova branches. My experience was always that people were surprised to find out I was dating some guy or putting out ads in Metropolis. I guess I don't think EFL or foreign travel in general invites much testing of social or gender boundaries, even in Japan, where androgyny is de rigeur among young men. I suppose it's lucky that I'm not given to the kind of behavior that tends to tip people off, though you can certainly get away with a lot more of it in Tokyo than in other countries. I suppose I shouldn't begrudge the straight guys for wanting to feel fashionable for once...

Not to make this a much bigger discussion, but I think one can consider him or herself "out" if friends know, but not acquaintences. Basically, it all comes down to the answer to the question, "Do you have a boy/girlfriend?" Does one say: "No," or "I don't date boys/girls."? Sometimes I don't choose to out myself in such a situation, but I'm still proud to be qu-eer.

Anyway, I think the OP can expect to find in Japan coldness at the worst, and never hostility. And no matter where you live, there's going to be some fringe scene. I'm sure that even in the US, for example, there are enclaves in South Dakota, Mississippi, etc. Generally, I agree with Glenski and other posters - there's no central location for gay teachers, but the cities are where you'll find the most by virtue of population size, among other things.
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