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Leaving China-Do I need tax certificates to show at airport?
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Nyrthak



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Leaving China-Do I need tax certificates to show at airport? Reply with quote

Hi guys. Wondered if anyone has any experience in this. I am leaving China permanently at the end of January. I finished work in August but moved to the local university to learn some Chinese language. I remained on my work visa which is valid until Dec 31 because my work were wanting me to work weekends until then. But that work never eventuated. So come end of Dec I need to change to a student visa for a month so I can finish my course.

My question is this: I have been told that when I finally leave China I will need to present my tax certificates at the airport to be allowed to leave. Is this true? Has anyone else had to do this. I havnt had any work since August. I could chase up tax certificates for some months before August, but at great pains as my work is not co-operative in this.

Has anyone ever had to present tax certificates on leaving China?
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jammish



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never even heard of this before. Shocked Confused
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Should Not Happen Reply with quote

Assuming you have not committed any serious crimes while in China which would have generated a warrant for your arrest, I don't believe the Chinese authorities can prevent you from leaving the country.

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Francois



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Question Reply with quote

You are an nice person

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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP

As you have right to work, theoretically, I suppose authorities could ask you to show evidence of tax paid. I've never heard of it actually happening to anyone. Don't imagine you could be stopped from leaving...but you never know. Confused

Francois, are you Prof's girlfriend? Rolling Eyes
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Millerlong



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a dumb ar$e question. I think the answer should be obvious. What have the customs officials at the airport got to do with collecting taxes?
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WordUp



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.. But you may be asked to produce valid photographic evidence that you are a real person with affiliations to a nation with documentation allowing you to travel given a certain time and place to a pre-determined destination.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millerlong wrote:
It is a dumb ar$e question. I think the answer should be obvious. What have the customs officials at the airport got to do with collecting taxes?


Why so abrasive? Surelyit's not the O.P.'s fault for asking a legit question such as his?

In point of fact, the border guards could ask him to prove whether he paid taxes or not since such an eventualityhas long been on the cards.

The authorities have grown wary of foreign tax dodgers; the threshold for us is set at 4800 yuan, sensibly higher than for Chinese; considering how many guys are bragging theyare making upwards of 10'000, it is conceivable that the authorities want to take their rightful cut in that amount of money.

I agree that this is not likely to happen yet; if the O.P. leaves China by way of Guangdong to Hong Kong or Macau he won'tbe asked to produce receipts.

But at a future ddate it is quite likely for us to have to produce evidence that we have discharged our tax-paying duties atany mainland international airport.
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Steppenwolf

Millerlong and 'Prof's bird' Francois, what's all this aggression about? It is a legitimate question, at least for the OP. Chill...... Cool
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes you have to wonder why some people even bother taking the time to post here. If you don't have anything constructive to add except for insults why post?

The fact is that it is not such a silly question at all it would not surprise me at all if some countries would in fact ban foreign work residents from leaving if taxes have not been paid.

It is illegal not to pay taxes as it is to work illegally. So if you have been working in a country and not paid taxes then you have acted illegally. Check the visa regulations for almost any country and you will see that your visa can be revoked and you can be prevented from leaving the country until your case has been heard.

Fortunately, while this may have applied to China in the past, it does not apply at present to the best of my knowledge.
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InTime



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nyrthak...npw that you've experienced the Forum S/M Gauntlet...

Don't take it personally...

RE: your question...

That has already happened to me...in Tauwan...20 uears ago
The memory is rather fuzzy...but I distinctly recall:
*unpleasant surprise at the Taipei airport
*"Tax receipts?"

I couldn't leave on my flight.
Instead, I had to go back and get my tax receipts.

Some say Taiwan is 20 years ahead of the Mainland

So...perhaps prescient are those CCTV news shows
of the Taiwan folks en masse
...demanding Chen Sui Bian's ouster/resignation
Perhaps he'll also be requested/required/inquested...
...to show his tax receipts.
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Sometimes you have to wonder why some people even bother taking the time to post here. If you don't have anything constructive to add...
quite agreeable...your experiences on forums are constructively valuable Wink


Quote:
Millerlong and 'Prof's bird' Francois,..
Quote:
Francois, are you Prof's girlfriend?
Mistress, are you jealous?


Now to those taxes, I don't think it is "dumb" from one to come forward on forums with a tax question in China, but I do believe that such a question might raise some awareness in Chinese officials.

Quote:
It is illegal not to pay taxes as it is to work illegally. So if you have been working in a country and not paid taxes then you have acted illegally.
I guess that those are the words of the most experienced FT on mainland. Smile


Taxes are surely to be paid, but when nobody's asking for it Confused ... would you just knock at a door and drop it off?
Let's not poke in a sh*t that does not stink, please!


Peace to tax system in China
and
cheers and beers to the ones that give it up Very Happy


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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Should Not Happen Reply with quote

China.Pete wrote:
Assuming you have not committed any serious crimes while in China which would have generated a warrant for your arrest, I don't believe the Chinese authorities can prevent you from leaving the country.


Would you consider overstaying your visa as a serious crime? I was prevented from leaving China once because of this.
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to answer the OPs question: I have never in my 9 or 10 times leaving China been asked to provide anything other than a passport.

Even when i had 130 pounds of luggage with me. (And a pretty Chinese Girlfriend with me.)
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff, prevented from leaving China is quite a jail sentence...how long?

Peace to criminals
and
cheers and beers to inmates
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