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bradwelljackson



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Brace yourself for the ultimate newbie question! Reply with quote

Is it necessary to have a TEFL certificate to teach English overseas, or can an experienced teacher make it without one? Since this question is general, I will limit it to three countries: Morocco, China and South Korea. How does my question apply to these three countries?

Specifics: I am a United States citizen teaching English in Mexico.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't need one for Korea, but you do need a degree.

Don't need one for China - degree needed for the better jobs in urban areas.
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thailand is a no. As of Nov 28th, Thailand will require either a 4 year education degree or a 4 year degree plus a 1 year program in education and you will need to take special classes in Thai language and Culture BEFORE you can legally teach.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Killjoy wrote:
Thailand is a no. As of Nov 28th, Thailand will require either a 4 year education degree or a 4 year degree plus a 1 year program in education and you will need to take special classes in Thai language and Culture BEFORE you can legally teach.


Wow, really? That's big change is it not? Would that be blowback from John Mark Karr?

Sarge, do you think the change would make under-the-table work more or less common there after Nov. 28th?
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Killjoy wrote:
Thailand is a no. As of Nov 28th, Thailand will require either a 4 year education degree or a 4 year degree plus a 1 year program in education and you will need to take special classes in Thai language and Culture BEFORE you can legally teach.


Thailand goes through these things from time to time - and even at this time a large percentage of current EFL teachers work without legal papers. Proposals without consideration of the effects are a bit of a tradition here - just as is the non-enforcement of such proposals - and the eventual withdrawal of such notions.

That said - yes - there is a real log-jam of teachers trying to get legal here and quite a few leaving out of frustration of dealing with the process - particularly as the use of visa runs and tourist visas as ways of staying here long-term are tightened.

Here is the regulation as reviewed by the Phuket Gazette:

The new policy requires that all foreign teachers possess at least a bachelor�s degree, a certified copy of which must be presented to the local MoE office along with a certified copy of the applicant�s transcript (academic record).

Before hiring a new teacher, schools must wait for approval from the MoE�s International Education Promotion Division, which must check the authenticity of the teacher�s credentials by seeking a confirmation letter from the university the applicant claims to be graduate of.

The new policy specifies three other requirements:

- The applicant must possess a passport with a non-immigrant visa of any class, except for an �ED� study/education visa. The visa must be valid for at least 15 days before the date of application;

- The name of the teacher must match that on his/her passport and academic degree;

- Teachers from countries where English is not an official language must present evidence of English-language fluency, in the form of standardized test results with the following minimum scores: IELTS 5.5; or TOEFL 550 or TOEIC 600.
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