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dmb
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: Kimlik |
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| Make sure you are carrying your id if you are in the beyoglu area. My taxi was stopped and checked on Friday night.(other friends said the same) Then yesterday afternoon the police came into a cafe and checked everyone's id over the walkie talkie. I was told it's because of the soaring crime rate. But I don't know. |
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Alan13446
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Beyoglu has crime?? Unbeleivable...and here I thought it was as safe as can be... 
Last month, I was strolling through beyoglu, and right across from the Galatasaray entrance, where cars cross the street, a curly haired and bearded young man "bumped" into me...
Now I should say that I'm 48, really white with whats left of my dirty blonde hair, tall, with blue eyes...a definite foreigner, although I did spend a few years of my childhood in Turkey, and can speak and understand Turkish fairly well...
So this dude marks me and bumps into me...
"Excuse me, do you have a match?"
"Sorry No, I don't"
"You don't have a match? Why don't you have a match?
"Because i don't smoke!"
"Why don't you smoke"
At this point, all the red flags were obvoiusly up, and knowing he had accomplices near me, I stopped, turned to him, and in almost fluent Turkish, replied:
"Bok Herif, rahat birak beni, git baskasini soy"
He froze, eyes widened, and I swear he disappeared from my sight in 2 seconds...
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tvik
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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crime rate???
does anyone have stories that were particularly dangerous? The 5 times i've been in turkey i felt totally safe except for this time, i'm much more paranoied. i feel like the place is more dangerous than it was 10 years ago but i think i've change as well. i just can't decide which has changed more, me or the country.
does anyone else feel a little threatened sometimes?? anyone had any serious trouble or hear of it? |
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howmucharefags
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Kimlik |
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| dmb wrote: |
| Make sure you are carrying your id if you are in the beyoglu area. My taxi was stopped and checked on Friday night(other friends said the same). |
Do you moonlight as a taxi driver dmb?
I'm having visions of an East-coaster doing Robert de Niro impressions in Istanbul. |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm still waiting for my first mugging/pickpocketing/drugging/etc. Every one keeps telling me how violent it is getting here but the only thing I have experienced in the past 5 years has been...a mini-mugging in Bulgaria. Hm. And to be honest, I've been mistaken for a russian prostitute less often as the years have gone by. It used to happen with more regularity. Hasnt happen for about a year now. Knock on wood. |
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thrifty
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Has anyone been pickpocketed after using a cash machine? It has happened to me twice in the last 2 years and I have only realised when I got home. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you know that the reason Vakko is moving from Istiklal is because of the number of shoplifters? |
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handular
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| yaramaz wrote: |
| a mini-mugging in Bulgaria. |
what's that? little people? |
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sandyhoney2
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I can pinpoint exactly where I was pickpocketed - at the Yenikapi train stop while getting a visne drink. I had a decoy wallet on me. It was the decoy that was taken. But I forgot to load my real wallet up with cash and had just thrown my change into my decoy. Thus I lost about the equivilant of $2.
But I also lost a cute picture of my mom and me when I was about 3 years old.
I've also been ripped off by a cab driver - bigtime - but it was late at night and it was my own stupidity. Then again, I've had shop-keepers chase me down to give me back my change. And all other cab drivers I've had were decent.
Not to mention, I always, always get back all of my change on the dolmus even when it has had to go through many hands to get to me. |
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ghost
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: response to Yaramaz |
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I've been mistaken for a russian prostitute less often as the years have gone by. It used to happen with more regularity. Hasnt happen for about a year now. Knock on wood.
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One assumes that would have been more prevalent during the two years Yaramaz spent in Kayseri....very far from the ways of "western" Istanbul.
In Kayseri, a place where a sizeable number of women folk wear the veil, Yaramaz, with her bohemian dress and style would have stood out much more compared with Istanbul, where many of the Turkish lasses can compete with the best fashions in the west.....so much so that they look no different......
In Istanbul, unless Yaramaz opens her mouth, she can "pass" for Turkish, because Turkey has a surprising number of folk who are more "nordic" in appearance than one might initially think..
Ghost was surprised, when it stayed in Ankara (July 2003) how many Turkish students adopted the North American "grunge look" and they were really almost indistinguishable from the backpackers hailing from North America and Europe.....except that Turkish folk don't usually walk around with back packs.......the back pack was usually the give away....especially if it was one of those College type backpacks with a brand name......
Finally, one is a little bit surprised that Yaramaz might have been mistaken for a "Natasha" because the latter tend to show quite a bit more skin (including outdated miniskirt modes) compared with the baggy style of Yaramaz.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| thrifty wrote: |
| Has anyone been pickpocketed after using a cash machine? It has happened to me twice in the last 2 years and I have only realised when I got home. |
It was probably the obscene bulge in your pocket that tipped them off ... |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Ghost, it was only in Istanbul that this happened. Twice I was stopped by the police, who were convinced I was a prostitute. When they saw that I was a teacher (gracias a my ikamet) they apologised, but only after haulingme into the police car and yelling at me for a while. I had made the mistake of walking in Kadikoy at 11pm. I was also cruised by a lot of guys in cars whilst walking home from work in Suadiye, who unrolled their windows and asked me how much I charged (um, 60ytl/hour for regular lessons, 70 for toefl, 80 for business writing...). I was usually wearing long skirts and carrying a backpack full of textbooks. Go figure.
This never happened in Kayseri. I got more cat-calling there, but it was hands off and mostly 'hello, i love you, where you from, i name mustafa'. In Istanbul, the guys sometimes do try to cop a feel and use disgusting language. |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| yaramaz wrote: |
Ghost, it was only in Istanbul that this happened. Twice I was stopped by the police, who were convinced I was a prostitute. When they saw that I was a teacher (gracias a my ikamet) they apologised, but only after haulingme into the police car and yelling at me for a while. I had made the mistake of walking in Kadikoy at 11pm. I was also cruised by a lot of guys in cars whilst walking home from work in Suadiye, who unrolled their windows and asked me how much I charged (um, 60ytl/hour for regular lessons, 70 for toefl, 80 for business writing...). I was usually wearing long skirts and carrying a backpack full of textbooks. Go figure.
This never happened in Kayseri. I got more cat-calling there, but it was hands off and mostly 'hello, i love you, where you from, i name mustafa'. In Istanbul, the guys sometimes do try to cop a feel and use disgusting language. |
I never did get an answer off you.
(I've met Yaramaz actually, and she does look like like a dirty cheap *beep*, it's just something about her eyes) |
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yaramaz
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Oh baba, you just didn't make loud enough slurping noises when you reached out drunkenly to fondle my backpack.
(regarding my eyes, do you think its because I had the LASIK surgery last summer that I have stopped being mistaken for a prostitute? Maybe it was the way my cornea was shaped that got the guys going...) |
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Baba Alex
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| yaramaz wrote: |
Oh baba, you just didn't make loud enough slurping noises when you reached out drunkenly to fondle my backpack.
(regarding my eyes, do you think its because I had the LASIK surgery last summer that I have stopped being mistaken for a prostitute? Maybe it was the way my cornea was shaped that got the guys going...) |
Damn girl! That's one fine cornea! |
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