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[Malsol]

[sheeba]

[Malsol]

[sheeba]

Malsol. You obviousely haven't ventured into the right directions teaching here in China. You're negative view is unjustified and I personally believe that you can create an English speaking environment in your classroom .With clear objectives , task based assignments and a motivation to learn something (which I doubt you are encouraging) you can achieve communication in clas with students. My students don't speak English for 1 and a half hours I admit but when I prepare the opportunity for them to speak - Note the opportunity then I see all of my students contributing to tasks that I set them. To create the opportunity is the skill the teacher requires. Have you thought about getting yourself trained ? I'm studying the DELTA. I've a way to go but I find it very ptactical and would advise you to look into it . If you're so cheesed off then why oh why are you stuck here in China in your sinking ship that you seem to want to tell us about . You sound like that 'thrifty ' character on the general discussion board . He's just about ready to commit suicide.

I'm wide awake mate. No problem getting up in the morning . How about you ?

[Malsol]

[sheeba]

So you come on here , start a thread about exactly that - 'psychoanalysis' which I doubt you have any idea about anyway You're also telling the world that the FT's here are mugs basically . Just cos you are a failed teacher does not mean we follow suit.

I looked at the title in interest because I am studying 'acquisition' vs 'learning' right now but you don't even want to talk about that because you have no interest in it. or knowledge. Why even start the thread? You're what I'd call a 'wierdo'

I'd have a lay in tommorow if I were you .

[sheeba]

And apologies for me and Malsol using the word 'psychoanalysis' completely out of context .Mind I feel Malso may need some mental disorder treatment.

[vikdk]

In our kindies - we have nine of them (I think � aint counted for a bit) - this year the number of children in the oldest classes who speak English (can carry out a spontaneous conversation in English) is at an average of just under 10% ( a rough guestimate - about 3 kids/class in classes of 30) - and the number who understand the English we�ve taught in our lessons � and can now totally follow simple stories without translation - and answer simple questions - is over 50%. We've had most of these kids now for 2 years (some 3) - and believe that small children who receive daily "English lessons" (not in a langauge immersion set-up) - from scratch - can be taught to listen to and understand the English vocab we use in 2 years - this vocab is enough for those children with ability to communicate English. When this takes place - the children become amazingly quick learners- and can teach themselves through English lesson type DVD's, and if they have them, interacting with English speaking parents. With such kids their progress improves week by week - and the FT, in such circumstances, becomes someone the kid needs to practice their English on , since their English ability starts to get better than most of the ordinary kindy teachers.
To get learning to work at the kindy level - you need -
1. to get local teachers to accept and respect to idea that learning English takes it time - and that you have to go over the same old stuff time and time again so that acquisition comes about through language internalisation.
2. get kindies to scrap that rote method shiite.
3. build a structure of simple vocab - so that you are teaching language that can be re-hashed and re-built into differing conversational form.
4.most importantly - make English so much fun - and it�s easy at this age - that the kids just have to learn it - otherwise they feel they're missing out on something!
5. Ft�s must also respect the fact that this learning language stuff takes its time - if you jump about from job to job then really don't expect to see any really awesome stuff.

By the way - to get the kids to a good level of English is also something very much to do the Chinese English teacher in the kindies - we have been co-operating with these in a really close way for almost 2 years now (we were employed as monkeys to begin with) - and this year the number of English speakers has really increased - next year we hope for even better.

[sheeba]

It's good to see things are working for you VIK. I'm at a kindy and although it has taken time I'm starting to get results . I agree with the 'time ' issue . Also the kids have to enjoy it . I'm passing the job over after 6 months with the kids which in a way is a shame . As you say it takes time . I've taught such basic things but at the same time I feel the kids are getting a good grounding . I introduce stuff very subtly . My kids are using adverbs at the age of 5 . Something my Uni students can't do !!
i feel kind of sad letting them go as I've developed and learnt a hell of a lot but honestly the energy needed is so much . I only do 4 hours but I feel exhausted after that and can't study what I should be doing for my course . I've been reading a lot about child psychology which is a must here . I agree with you Malsol that we must educate ourselves and apologise for reacting a bit strong earlier . I have women problems at the moment and I'm a bit agressive today. Roarrrrr

[Malsol]

[yamahuh]

My lord, you're like a broken record that keeps on spinning.
You're nothing more than a disgruntled troll, you no longer teach English by your own admission but you feel the need to keep coming on here, insulting teachers who you've never met or observed but who aren't 'real' according to your grandiose and somewhat ludicrous standards. Then you start threads telling us all how we should be teaching.

What was the point of this thread? From what I can gather it's just another attempt by you to prove to us all what an iconic teacher you are...only ...errrm.... you're not a teacher any more are you?
If you're such an accomplished teacher why aren't you still doing it?
Doesn't your current occupation have a forum where you can go and try to prove your superiority to everybody else?

Malsol?
Sounds like a diahorrhea suppressant, which could explain some things about your online personality.

[Malsol]

[Malsol]

[yamahuh]

[sheeba]

yanahuh . Just ignore him. He might go away.