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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: Article about PSU |
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How Saudi oil money corrupted Oxford
By Kate McMullen
The University has signed a secret agreement with a Middle Eastern university to fast-track the admissions of Saudi students, The Oxford Student has learned. The pact follows a payment of �2m to Oxford by the university�s chairman, a brutal and wealthy Sultan. Prince Sultan Salman bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud is a member of the notorious royal family of Saudi Arabia, who run the country as a theocratic dictatorship and have funneled vast amounts of wealth from the country�s oil resources.
The hushed-up deal between Prince Sultan University (PSU) and Oxford not only puts the University in breach of government education guidelines, but also violates the University�s own Statutes by failing to consult Council, the ultimate decision-making body. The Saudi influence over Oxford admissions stems from the �2 million given by Al-Saud to the Ashmolean Museum in May 2005.
The deal, dubbed the �Ashmolean Agreement�, also provided for ten scholarships at Oxford for Saudi Arabian students. A crucial aspect of the first pact was the demand that �both parties shall endeavour within one year�to agree the terms of an exchange programme.� A year later a �Memorandum of Understanding� between Oxford University and the PSU was finalised by a Saudi delegation.
On 4 May, the group met with highranking Oxford officials, including Vice-Chancellor John Hood who rubber-stamped the pact. The Oxford Student has obtained a copy of the contract, which Oxford University have refused to make public. The Memorandum shows that Oxford University agreed to speed up applications as a result of the �2m payment from the Sultan.
It states, �In recognition of the munificent benefaction arising from the 2005 �Ashmolean Agreement�, Oxford will administer the ten scholarships held in the Prince�s name. �Oxford will endeavour to identify 4-6 colleges with resources and expertise (e.g. in law, economics, finance, computer science, English, linguistics, applied linguistics and translation) that suit PSU students. �It will also seek to expedite the application process.
The promise to bypass the standard admissions procedure puts Oxford in breach of the guidelines laid out by The Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education. The guidelines stipulate that higher education institutes must have �policies and procedures for the recruitment and admission of students to higher education that are fair�and implemented consistently. �All staff involved at each stage of the admissions process need to be informed about the institution�s policies, procedures and criteria for student admissions to higher education.� The University also failed to consult with key members of the University who would be affected by the deal. Professor Bill Roscoe, Director of the Oxford Computing Laboratory, said: �I have no recollection of learning of the alliance with Prince Sultan University before the delegation arrived.
Critically, the deal also breaks Oxford�s own Regulations, which make it clear that no such University contract can be made without the consent of Council. Statute XVI records that, �No officer of the University, or any other person employed by the University...shall have authority to make any representations on behalf of the University or to enter into any contract on behalf of the University, except with the express consent of Council.
The deal was signed without discussion by the University�s parliament of dons, Congregation, or permission from Council. The University�s silence over the agreement appears to be a concerted effort to play down the significance of the deal. The �Memorandum of Understanding� has never been publicly announced. In contrast, the PSU has dedicated a web page to the deal, hailing it as an �historic agreement�.
The website says, �The Memorandum of Understanding which was signed at the end of the visit marked a historical moment for both the university of Oxford and Prince Sultan University.� A University spokesperson said, �The �Memorandum of Understanding� marked the intentions of the two universities to explore areas of collaboration, but does not involve any particular commitments.� She conceded, �The agreement is more attractive to the PSU than to Oxford. The initiative came more from them.�
http://www.oxfordstudent.com/mt2006wk4/News/how_saudi_oil_money_corrupted_oxford |
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Mr Gohlam
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I can confirm that this is true, my wife applied at PSU, only to find they have been involved in bribery, from friends at Oxford. She opted out of the interview, and although we are separated as she is still in London and I am teaching here in Saudi, I think its the better of the two options. Why subject her to unprofessional and substandard conditions for a few riyals? |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Would your wife have been allowed to keep her hijab on at PSU, Mr. Gohlam? As I recall, that was something of a priority for you both.
While I have little reason to doubt the overall accuracy of the story about PSU attempting to bribe Oxford, the author of the article is in dire need of a fact checker. She got the Prince's name wrong, and incorrectly referred to him as "the Sultan". She also made up the bit about him being 'de facto ruler' of KSA. Also, crowds do not gather to watch executions in Riyadh 'every Friday'.
If these are the academic 'standards' of Oxford, maybe they deserve all they get by partnering up with PSU. Or is it OK to dispense with accuracy when the opportunity is there for a bit of jingoism? This is Oxford, after all.
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Mr Gohlam wrote: |
...Why subject her to unprofessional and substandard conditions for a few riyals? |
Agree, Mr Gholam, this is good decision in the right way.
I hope you are in a professional institution, with super-standards conditions, and with some extra Riyals, good luck.
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I think corruption in universities and other institutions exist everywhere in the world, not only in Oxford and PSU. And is more common in higher education in developing countries in the world. I think, when political interests are involved in universities, then the corruption is worse, and may lead to the 'academic' death of the university. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Oxford and Cambridge so far have been, together with the odd London college, the only places in the UK to still insist on academic standards for their post-graduate students.
Exchange programmes are reasonable throughout the world. Nevertheless, it is a little puzzling that Oxford should do its exchange program with a private university, rather than a government one.
As for the ten scholarships for Saudi students to the best of my knowledge the policy of UK universities of granting scholarships for foreign students is hallowed by tradition.
The article seems like typical tabloid journalism. As for Council not being consulted, I don't have enough evidence to know to what degree Council (which represents every single Oxford don and has thousands of members) deals with the nitty-gritty small details. What I do know is that there is a proposal that shows all signs of being passed, that will take power out of Council for the first time to a so-called board of trustees, who will basically be a question of plutocrats and money managers often with little or no prior connection to the university. If this proposal goes through I would expect many much more shady deals than this to be passed. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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The other articles make things clearer.
What I fail to understand is the title to this thread.
Is PSU a credible institution, even after this scandal?
What PSU has done is perfectly honorable. They have made exchange arrangements with a reputable university.
If there is going to be a poll, shouldn't it be
Is Oxford University a credible institution, even after this scandal? |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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If there is going to be a poll, shouldn't it be
Is Oxford University a credible institution, even after this scandal? |
I agree completely.
In a sense, you kinda sorta have to say, "Good for PSU!" After all, here is a 5th rate (those who referred to them as 2nd rate were being diplomatic) cod institution which has managed, even if by less than noble methods, to gain a partnership with the world's most prestigious university. By contrast, said prestigious university has put its honour on the line by teaming up with a 'college' whose 'standards' wouldn't even compare to that of the lowliest university in Britain.
Mind you, bearing in mind the fact that 'even' Oxford was willing to sell itself for a relatively paltry sum, that last line may not be strictly true. |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen Jones wrote: |
The other articles make things clearer.
What I fail to understand is the title to this thread.
Is PSU a credible institution, even after this scandal?
What PSU has done is perfectly honorable. They have made exchange arrangements with a reputable university.
If there is going to be a poll, shouldn't it be
Is Oxford University a credible institution, even after this scandal? |
Ah, since this is the Saudi Arabia forum, and most readers are in KSA, or are trying to get a job in KSA, there are people talking about this and other places to teach English in the country, so the poll read as such. Besides, PSU has been suspect on this forum, Oxford, until you brought it up has not.
However, since you raised the issue of Oxford, how credible can they be when they are taking bribes from a 5th rate private university in a developing country? In addition, I have heard from a graduate of Oxford, that Oxford allows their BA graduates to purchase their MA from the University, with no thesis or coursework. How decent is that in and of itself? Can anyone confirm this practice?
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Who cares ? I must admit that I cannot get excited about a badly-written piece by a badly-informed 'journalist'. |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Who cares ? I must admit that I cannot get excited about a badly-written piece by a badly-informed 'journalist'. |
Why are you commenting if you don't care? Perhaps you can enlighten us about "good" journalism if The Times, or the Financial Times are not up to your standards. Did you read the original article? If so you would have known it was written by a student and you wouldn't expect perfection from a student writing for the Oxford student newspaper itself, the Oxford Student. Given all this painfully wrong journalism, let us know what the right sources of news about Oxford University and its "related" actions are, if not UK newspapers and magazines or the Oxford Student newspaper.
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Queen of Sheba wrote: |
....I have heard from a graduate of Oxford, that Oxford allows their BA graduates to purchase their MA from the University, with no thesis or coursework. How decent is that in and of itself? Can anyone confirm this practice? |
I doubt it!
If it happened, it means that the QAA, the EPSC, and the external examiners, are not doing their job properly, which I doubt it. Because, we have to recognize that Oxford University was not established yesterday or 10 years ago, it has a history of more than 900 years. And its programs are subjected to a high quality academic assurance. And if it happens that the senior management did something wrong, especially concerning quality of academic programs, and if there is a concrete evidence for their wrong doing, then, I think they will be investigated and held accountable.
So, I think the problem of PSU with Oxford, is an administrative problem, and I think, it has nothing to do with the academic quality of Oxford university, and will not affect its academic reputation. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Cleopatra wrote: |
..a 'college' whose 'standards' wouldn't even compare to that of the lowliest university in Britain. |
I woul rather say ... a 'college' whose 'standards' wouldn't even compare to that of the lowliest high school in Britain. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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a 'college' whose 'standards' wouldn't even compare to that of the lowliest high school in Britain. |
Which suggests you don't know much about High Schools in Britain.
Incidentally, Saudis have long studied abroad in the USA or UK (indeed until the end of the 70s nearly all Saudi graduates studied abroad). Indeed the vast majority of the Saudi cabinet has always had degrees from first rate US and UK universities.
Some years back a Saudi friend who had qualified in computer science in the US told me that when they were abroad Saudi students were among the best, but when they returned to Saudi social pressure meant they reverted to all the old bad habits. |
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