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Gregor

Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Oaxaca? |
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What's the latest news from Oaxaca? Has the trouble died down a bit yet? Is it, or will it soon, get back to normal? |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I can't really say right now. Friday, December 1st will likely be a key day. Things will probably be clearer after then. |
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thelmadatter
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1212 Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: agreed |
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I agree with MELEE ( are you shocked M?)
With AMLO's "inauguration getting a good turnout, it stand to reason that we need to watch and see what happens both in DF and Oaxaca on that day. |
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sarliz

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Jalisco
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Things had gotten a lot quieter here, but then the rowdiness picked back up again on Nov. 20. Word right now is that something is going to happen tomorrow, with APPO maybe trying to reconstruct roadblocks around the city and retake the zocalo. This is purely conjecture, gleaned from talking to people out and about, and (attempting) to read the newspaper. But we shall see. I'm fully prepared to wait it out with a good book, a beer, and some lesson planning. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we haven't fallen off the map yet. |
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delacosta
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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On Wed. Dec. 6th, after 125 days of occupation, the APPO turned over the Huajuapan city hall to the major and his cabinate in a ceremony that was broadcast on our only local media, the radio. Most national and state wide media repeately reported that the conflict was confined to Oaxaca City. I sent several emails pointing out that that and other things they reported were simply not true, but never got any response from the media .
Any way, after shaking hands with our PAN mayor, the local APPO members, who are from the MULTI (Movimiento de Unificacion Triqui Independiente) and FINC (Frente Nacional Indigena y Campesino), didn't just pick up their things (they'd been camping under the arcos) They started scrubbing down the building, and brought out buckets of paint to cover the grafiti!
What do you make of that?
Just polite country people? or was that part of some behind the scenes neogitation we didn't hear about? The official statement was they have to get back the their village for the Lupe-Reyes season.  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at some of the initial causes of the conflict, as Delacosta has been so diligent in providing, maybe all the back channel corruption of where the money goes and who gets it has solved the issue there where you are Melee. PRI fed money to PRI state players to disburse to local militias, union chiefs, and rabble rousers is the old way. Maybe it's now PAN fed money to local militias, union chiefs, and rabble rousers, going right around PRI state. I'm guessing, but I think any guessing on Oaxaca has to start with the money flow.
Maybe the best way to get rid of Ruiz isn't through legal means at all. Maybe just cutting the rotten Oaxaca tree at the roots is the solution. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Maybe it's now PAN fed money to local militias, union chiefs, and rabble rousers, going right around PRI state. I'm guessing, but I think any guessing on Oaxaca has to start with the money flow. |
Yes, it did come out recently that our current Mayor, the fourth PAN mayor we've had in a row, is a friend of Calderon's. He's planning on personally asking him for a connection to the Superhighway, something that would change the face of the city forever and shave about two hours off the trip to Mexico City.
Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Maybe the best way to get rid of Ruiz isn't through legal means at all. Maybe just cutting the rotten Oaxaca tree at the roots is the solution. |
ooo, bad metaphor Guy, did you know el Tule tree was almost lost to fire recently? |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ruiz has admited that some of those arrested and transfered to the prison in Nayarit are innocent. This the same weekend that Pinochet finally dies.  |
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