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kt_monster



Joined: 15 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Plenty more fish in the sea? Reply with quote

I have alway thought the plural of fish was fish. one fish two fish etc. However the english book I use say fishes, this just seems wrong to me. The people around me I have asked (all chinese) say fishes. Whos right me or the book?
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sheeba



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Oxford Dictionary - Fish is the usual plural form. The older form fishes can be used to refer to different kinds of fish but you are correct in telling your students we say ' there are plenty more fish in the sea' My idioms dictionary also uses 'fish'
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Plenty more fish in the sea? Reply with quote

kt_monster wrote:
I have alway thought the plural of fish was fish. one fish two fish etc. However the english book I use say fishes, this just seems wrong to me. The people around me I have asked (all chinese) say fishes. Whos right me or the book?


i say, you say, he says, she says, it says....... Very Happy

fishes sounds stupid. reminds me of an equally stupid change in terminology in canada a few years ago. they decided on more political correctedness and decided to start calling fishermen, fishers instead.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it's not being used as a verb?

He fishes for trout every evening.

or

She fishes for a compliment, but rarely gets one.


Something like that?
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kt_monster



Joined: 15 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys, I thought I was right.
No it is not being used as a verb it is "He eats the fishes" type sentences.
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The_Prodiigy



Joined: 01 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are acceptable.

FISH is the more common.
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Craig!



Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

''One Fish, Two Fish, Green Fish, Blue Fish'' is one interactive computer game in www.seussville.com > playground. Check it out.
''Sam-I-Am'' is better for building sentences.
I generally don't like to use computer games in class, but now and then, I have to ''throw 'em a bone.''
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latefordinner



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll agree with the_prod, both are acceptable. I remember as a kid learning the story of "The loaves and the fishes". (OK, I'm showing my age here a bit) I have to wonder though if fish is more common than fishes because it is less awkward, or if fishes seems more awkward simply because it is less common. Chickens and eggs, perhaps?

We had company over for dinner, now its time to head to the kitchen. Plenty of dish in the sink to wash. If I had 3 wish, I'd ask for more wish. Hugs and kish, all
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jammish



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, fishes is definitely NOT acceptable as the plural of the noun 'fish' unless you are gollum.

Shocked
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KES



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, fishes is definitely NOT acceptable as the plural of the noun 'fish' unless you are gollum.


LOTR reference. Sweet

"Nasty hobbits take gollum's plurals. Gollum hates 'em. Hate'ssssss 'em."
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