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hourly pay...what does it break down to for you?
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chi-chi



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Back in Asia!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:26 pm    Post subject: hourly pay...what does it break down to for you? Reply with quote

People talk about salaries, but I would like a more accurate picture...what does your average wage break down to in HK, including total time spent at the office (not just teaching time?)
Just wondering, having worked in both Korea and Taiwan and not really knowing much about HK (wanting a clearer picture.)
Thanks
Chi-Chi
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Freddie_Unbelievable



Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you should stay in Korea or Taiwan. HK is for the hard working. I'm always busy, but that is why I get $6,800 US per month.
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ryuro



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred,

How great for you that you get paid so much. Just a quick question... what on earth do you see in chi-chi's post that would suggest he/she doesn't work hard?

Or are you just trying to agitate (I've seen a number of your posts in this forum tend toward that end)?

As far as I can tell chi-chi was just looking for a little real life info and being the hard worker that you claim you are, I would have thought you could provide a little better than what was in your post.

Lighten up Fred.

Chi-chi, wish I could help, but I have no experience in HK, just interested in it as a possible destination. However, based on Fred's info, not sure if I'm "hard working" enough to work in HK. In any case, good luck.

Cheers,
ryuro

PS. I'm not always particularly hard working or busy for that matter, but I seem to make a fair bit more than old Fred... hmm... wonder what I might be doing wrong?
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"PS. I'm not always particularly hard working or busy for that matter, but I seem to make a fair bit more than old Fred... hmm... wonder what I might be doing wrong?"

Hmmm, should I take the bait? Well No

It seems to me chi-chi wants maximum pay for minimum work. In that case, stay out of HK because the NET scheme does not need those kind of people.

If you want to make loads of cash be ready for the professional responsibilty that comes with it.
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Gray000



Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are truly the stuff of which sausage is made.
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yummy sausage. Is that really you? Why?
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chi-chi



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok, that post told me everything I needed to know: so the market's tight for teachers, pays really well, and teachers are worried about job security.
It sounds good, I'll talk to some friends in Korea and maybe we'll all look at coming together to look for work.
Thanks for the info Freddie!
Chi-Chi
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"we'll all look at coming together to look for work"

Teachers who "look for work" usually end up at Institutes. That is fine. But, as for the pay, you will probably be better off in Korea.

After your rent, tax, transportation, and basic expenses expect to save as much as you would at the Ding Dang Dong Hagwon.

HK welcomes you (u bong) chi-chi
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AKA



Joined: 04 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez Freddie, you don't want any more people on "your" turf, do you? Some of the hardest working teachers I've ever known [that's qualified and registered teachers] have been total incompetents who've HAD to work very long hours just to keep their heads above water.
I'm not suggesting you're [note this grammatical structure] like that, but if only you answered the question without big-noting yourself at the expense of the original poster.
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKA,

Hmmm, how much did you save here in HK ?

Just curious

I'm near $150,000 US
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ryuro



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I'm going against what I'm about to advocate, but old Fred here is one of those persons who's best ignored.

I've run into way too many personalities like him in my time to know that they are worth neither the effort nor time to engage.

Reminds me of something one of my favorite teachers used to tell us when we thought we were more than we were...

"Stick your arm in a bucket of water then pull it out. Stick it back in, splash all about and pull it out again. The hole your arm leaves behind is how important you really are in the grand scheme of things."

Let people like Fred rant and run around and talk their heads off about how great they are. In the end no one will really care and when they're gone someone will always be there to take their place.

Good-bye Fred,my time is too valuable to waste anymore of it responding to your sad statements and opinions.

Cheers,
ryuro
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not great but I am rich.

Thank you for paying me so much cash. I make more in a month ($52,000 RMB) than mainland teachers do in a year.

How is that for splashing.
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Scott in HK



Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what working hard has to do with the NET program, as you get paid on a scale based on your experience. You can work hard..you can do nothing...same pay. Unless you are working on the side.
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once again



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It shows what a small pool you swim in. In HK your salary is nothing when compared to most of the expats, and only inflated to its present level by the housing allowance. Other than the housing allowance you are being paid the same as local teachers with the same amount of years in the business, but when they retire they will get huge retirement benefits..something that you don't have. I had to laugh at your figure of $150,000 US in savings. Get real. That amount is nothing compared to the ladies that you pass on the street who collect cans for a living. If you want to post here about how high and mighty you are, at least be honest. You are paid extra because you are a non local resident, and the only reason you got a job here is because of the fact that you were born in a country whose first language was Englsih. I figure you have been here for a few years, so at that time HK was desperate for teachers. So well done. You have been paid money at the local rate and given an allowance because you were not native HK but only got the job because you were a native English speaker. If my salary and esteem rested on the fact of accidents of birth I would not be posting such comments here.
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Freddie_Unbelievable



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"accident of birth"

I sense jealous feeling here. I'm accidently rich.

I'm ready to buy property in the mainland and have a few servants, too!
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