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Alan13446



Joined: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Still in Canada

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: About Turkey Reply with quote

Hello everyone...

Newbie here...enjoyed reading your posts...sounds like an excellent group with a good head on their shoulders...more or less Laughing

So, my question is, Turkey....

I was in Istanbul a few weeks ago, and while sitting on the vapur between Karakoy and Kadikoy and sipping on some hot cay out on the top rear deck, I got to talking with a couple of ESL teachers...one was an attractive young lady (heh, I'm 48, everyone is young to me) from Huntsville, who had met up with a long time friend of hers from down under just that day...
She was telling me about the fun she was having in Istanbul while teaching...

I was with my 13 year old son, and my soon to be ex-wife (so it was an anti-honeymoon, something you do before a divorce Razz ) and was intrigued by the concept...

I used to live in Istanbul 40 years ago, and hadn't been back in nearly 30 years...I've visited it 3 times in the past year, and aside from the overcrowding, litter, getting stared at, getting ripped off by everyone when buying something, - did I mention the litter and overcrowding, it's not a bad place...my folks used to work for Northern Electric at the time, Nortel Networks now, and helped the government out with getting the phone system up to par in the late 50's early 60's...well, my dad did anyway...

I still understand the language and can converse a bit...ah, the food, still spectacular....

Sorry for the long winded thing....so, I'm a technical writer now, and want to spend a couple of years in Istanbul teaching...looked into the Oxford Seminars training here in Ontario Canada...is there a market for someone nearly 50 to do this thing? Or do they go after the young'uns? I did go to 15 schools in 9 years in 4 countries, so adaptation is not an issue...been there, done that, got the t-shirt..

Thoughts, comments, opinions welcome...
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 1067
Location: South Western Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Alan , we're pretty much in the same age group,but I don't see that you would have any problems I don't,btw I'm 57 next april .You may have a better chance of a job in a uni in Izmir esp a certain private one .
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Alan13446



Joined: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Still in Canada

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Entrailicus"]I've never heard of an anti-honeymoon before. Is this real or are you starting a new trend?[/quote]

well, you know....you get married, have a honeymoon, 20 - 25 years go by, you realize it's over, so when parting as friends, you have an "anti-honeymoon", and you separate and get divorced...
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan, I have worked with and employed many people in their 50s.(private language schools and university) as Thrifty has often said if you have a pulse, you'll find a job. Of course, like anywhere the best jobs go to the more qualified and experienced.
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Golightly



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 877
Location: in the bar, next to the raki

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of fifty-somethings, is anyone in contact with Peter Boylan, (fairly) recently ousted from Dilko Bakirkoy? He arrived in Ist. just prior to his 50th: He took to the TEFLy life like a duck to water.

Or a TEFL teacher to whisky.
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calsimsek



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Posts: 775
Location: Ist Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay Alan13446, like others have said you will have no problem finding work. In fact I know of a few places that would rather have a '40/50 somthing' than some Mad young thing fresh out of school and fresh off the boat. Rolling Eyes

Don't worry You will be right ....... Wink
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a 60-year-old ? Viz Scot47 ?
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molly farquharson



Joined: 16 Jun 2004
Posts: 839
Location: istanbul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like to hire the mature teachers, as they balance the young ones. They have more life experience and don't get rattled so easily. Some years ago i had to convince the management that 50 yos aren't half dead, as they often are here, and that they are still full of energy. Since I am in the category too, it is nice to have company! And 60 is not too old, btw Scot.
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aharbut



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Arizona,USA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Fındıng work ın İstanbul Reply with quote

For whatever it's worth, I'M 65 and they're beating down my door...and I'm a woman!

Go for ıt ıs my suggestion, although I must admit, the pay stinks. Wink
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
they're beating down my door.
Who? Scot and Molly? Shocked

Is this a new recruitment drive by ET Wink Scot, what's your excuse? you're a married man. Laughing
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb

I thought I should try the polygamous life style. We have had the questiuon here about the Hijab. Why not multiple marriage !?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Posts: 1208
Location: Melo Drama School

PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that bars you from any job ... though an athletics coach probably wouldn't be too chuffed with such an applicant ...
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ghost



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Posts: 1693
Location: Saudi Arabia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: the truth Reply with quote

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I don't think that bars you from any job ... though an athletics coach probably wouldn't be too chuffed with such an applicant ...


There is no reason why an athletics coach could not do his/her job at a mature age (post 40/50 and above) as long as he/she were still in health and had the communication tools to transmit their passion.....

Look at the top football coaches in the world....many of them are in the 45-60 category, and some of them older.....and their lifetime experience on and off the field gives them extraordinary perspective.

Teaching in Turkey as a ``master`` should not be too difficult, but the masters would do better to select adult students rather than working with kids in the Kolejis where lack of motivation (on the part of the students) and unchecked (by management) poor classroom behaviours by the Turkish kids would tend to wear out (in a short time) all but the most resistant of master teachers.....and ghost has been there and done that, so knows what it is talking about....

Also, when ghost says ``adult student`` it found the best situations were adult housewife types who studied English as a hobby....they were in general far easier to manage and possessed more motivation than many of the Turkish Univ. students, who were still very immature, ghost found, at ages 18-22......a product of Turkish society, perhaps...

So, in short, yes it is possible for the boomers to work in Turkey, but those b.b`s would do better to do their job search in Turkey, rather than accepting a position ``online`` - and ghost found that the two places it had accepted from being selected ``online`` had many problems.....another place ghost obtained a job (an infamous Kolej on the south coast).....none of the problems were alluded to at the interview stage and ghost accepted the job......(this was during the summer vacation, so no chance to observe any classes).....so it would be wise to check out a school or Uni. and sit in on a few classes and talk to a few teachers.

Remember you as the teacher should have as much right to interview a place as they have the right to probe and interview you.

ghost
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