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cosmosmariner
Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 34
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: Lashing and Prison for Jeddah party-Goers |
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Saudi court orders lashing, jail for 20 foreigners for drinking and dancing at mixed party
4 February 2007 (AP)
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A Saudi Arabian judge sentenced 20 foreigners to receive lashes and spend several months in prison after convicting them of attending a party where alcohol was served and men and women danced, a newspaper reported Sunday.
The defendants were among 433 foreigners, including some 240 women, arrested by the kingdom's religious police for attending the party in Jiddah, the state-guided newspaper Okaz said. It did not identify the foreigners, give their nationalities or say when the party took place.
Judge Saud al-Boushi sentenced the 20 to prison terms of three to four months and ordered them to receive an unspecified number of lashes, the newspaper said. They have the right to appeal, it added.
The prosecutor general charged the 20 with ''drinking, arranging for impudent party, mixed dancing and shooting a video for the party,'' Okaz said.
The paper said the rest of those arrested were awaiting trial. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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433 foreigners? at one party? that must have been one heckuva party
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Given the size of the party and the number of arrests, I suspect they were Philippinos. Not that "Western" governments much care about the fate of their citizens in countries that spend billions annually on useless high-tech weapons, but I still don't think the Saudis would threaten that many white people with flogging. It must have been a nationality lower down on the pecking order. |
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caliph
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 218 Location: Iceland
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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In my years in the magical kingdom, I was at several parties where there were easily that many westerners. The "Battle of the Bands" was often a venue that had that many people in attendance. I can personally vouch for them at the Lockheed, Avco Dallah, and Raytheon compounds in glorious Jeddah, "where the debris meets the sea".
There was one famous party in the 1980s at the Bin "something or other" Foodstuffs compound that was raided by the police. The police arrived with ladders to scale the compound walls so as to avoid the gate guards notifying the party goers of the approaching police. Word did get to them and many scattered into the bushes and to the housing around the compound. An unlucky 100 or so were caught. A friend, who was the secretary for the British counsel then spent the next 3 days and nights visiting all the jails in Jeddah to find the Brits who were arrested and make arrangements for them. In this case the police had word that there were drugs to be sold at the party, they weren't particularly concerned about the alcohol, as it is well known that "Sid Deeky" is my friend. At least that's what the tee-shirts with that logo stated quite publicly.
Another famous one was in Dhahran where the police busted into a hall where there were several men on stage dancing, wearing nothing but revolving flashing lights attached to the crotch area.
Oh, those were the good old days in the magical kingdom!. |
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dmb

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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I guess, as Cleopatra suspected, the poor people in this party are mostly Philipino. And this is not the fist case or the last case where Philipino, Indians, bangali, etc, are caught in a party drinking or selling Porno videos. I have seen Pakistanis and Indians lashed in Public (some got 1000 lashes, especially for drug dealing, and some got 50 for minor incident like drinking!). So, don't be surpised.
BTW, the person who got 1000 lashes will not get them at one shot, there are regulation how to apply the lashes, it is done by smaller numbers distributed over a number of days or weeks, and the person is allowed to wear a thick jacket if he wants (to absorb the shock from the lashes)!
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I have been lashed at quite a few parties over the years |
yes, Dmb, I know that you have been lashed at quite few parties, but the most important thing is what type of lashes you got and on which part of your body did you get them?  |
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pklocek
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Lafayette, California
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that the party was probably a giant Pinoy Extravaganza by the numbers involved. I really can't believe that the poor Bangladeshis could muster 400 people who all actually have the same annual day-off. Furthermore, I have never actually seen Indians engaged in mixed-dancing. (I am not saying it doesn't happen ... I am just saying that I have never seen or heard of it happening.) |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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The Filipinos certainly know how to party. They also seem to be on the whole a lot saner than the Western EFLers we come across in KSA.
Any reason for this ? |
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cosmosmariner
Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 34
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: I can't believe it! |
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All you guys speculating on the nationalities of the party goers! You mised the point.
You know full well it was mostly a party crowd of the "bangers and beans" bunch. But what does it matter?
The whole purpose of the posting is to point out to TEFLers who might be considering a career in this Magical Kingdom, just what they may encounter if they come here. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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You mised the point. |
Your post consisted of a newspaper article, cut and pasted with no comment from the OP. There didn't seem to be any particular 'point' to it, other than as a news item. |
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Stephen Jones
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Allowing yourself to be videoed at an illicit party strikes me as only marginally less stupid than getting arrested for possessing the video. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
The Filipinos certainly know how to party. They also seem to be on the whole a lot saner than the Western EFLers we come across in KSA.
Any reason for this ? |
Yes, because the Filipinos know how and when to drink, and do not overdose themselves with Pink juice! Whereas, the Western EFLers, especially the British, and particularly the Scottish, are known to have what is known as 'hole in the soul', which means they do not know how and when to drink, and most of them they drink to fill 'the hole in the soul" created by ME and fear of desert depression and other unknown hidden reasons, and by this, they think are doing some kind of 'self-medication'. But in reality they are destroying themselves without knowing until exploding!
The following was seen on a poster in Argyll:
DRINK IS YOUR ENEMY.
Adjacent to this was another poster which said:
LOVE YOUR ENEMY.
The minister was sharing a rail compartment with a Scot the worse of drink, who insisted on talking.
�Please don�t speak to me,� said the minister. �You�re drunk.�
�Drunk?� replied the Scot. �You�re worse than me � you�ve got your collar on back to front.  |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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the Scottish, are known to have what is known as 'hole in the soul' |
Nah, hollow legs.
btw the juice you refer to- the pink one and the purple one. What is it? I prefer the black juice(Guiness) |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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dmb wrote: |
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the Scottish, are known to have what is known as 'hole in the soul' |
Nah, hollow legs. |
Yes, this is another characteristic with Scottish's legs, they are rectangular hollow legs and circular hollow brains.
Dmb, are you a heavy wieght? Could you drink a rugby team under the table!
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btw the juice you refer to- the pink one and the purple one. What is it? I prefer the black juice(Guiness) |
Pink Juice = Pink Champagne
Purple one is the one produced from Purple fruit, which was first mentioned here by princess Cleopatra
So, ask Cleopatra to give you more information about Purple fruit.  |
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dmb

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Could you drink a rugby team under the table! |
in training 007. we are currently with 1 win and 1 loss in the 6 nations. Should do better. |
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