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naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Seems like there are a lot of posters here who are married to people in their host country and have lived there for a long time. Have you gone through with the naturalisation process? If not, why not?

MELEE · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject:

I have not, because in order to get my daughters' US citizenship among the mountain of paperwork I have to summit is a visa showing that I am in Mexico legally and was at the time of their birth. It is going to cost me a couple hundered dollars to get them registered, something I haven't had yet, so I'm holding off on naturalizing until they have their US paper work in order.

aisha · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:47 am Post subject:

I have a question. I'm about to get married. Does that give me the ability to acquire a job in whatever field I want in Mexico or do I still have to find a job that a Mexican can't do, like teaching English for example.

misteradventure · Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 246

This is nit-picky, but may help clear up confusion when talking to a bureaucrat:

Nationality is what you have when you are bornin a country. If y ou are born in Austria, you have Austrian Nationality.

Citizenship is GRANTED as an 'entitlement'. If you later move to the US (or one of the States of the USA) and become naturalized, then you are GRANTED Citizenship.

Later, should you publish defamatory comments about an Esteemed World Leader, you may discover that they (the US Government, who earlier granted Citizenship) can REVOKE aforementioned Citizenship and deport you back to your Home Country, of which you are a National.

(Yes, I am playing fast and loose with capitalization to make my point.)

If you want a reference, please read the United Nations Charter on Universal Human Rights, which spells out all kinds of really neat things, which are legally binding on those countries which signed it
There are lots of really nifty, but wordy, documents at http://www.un.org

And marrying a local national does NOT always automatically grant you working papers/citizenship, but may speed things up, depending on the country. Please consult a lawyer, as I am not one and do not EVER say anything which might be considered legal advice, including the stuff above this disclaimer.

JosephP · Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 445

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

MELEE · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject:

It's not an across the board thing. The requirements are different in different countries. Here in Mexico, the US response to the very lax registration policy in Mexico. I could easily take my sister-in-law's baby, or anyone's newborn to the local Civil Registry and say it was mine and they'd issue me a birth certificate proving I was the mother. So I have to take the embassy photos of me pregnant, ultrasounds with my name printed on them (Thank god my dr. did that!) and a letter from the doctor swearing he attended me. I guess I'm lucky that my girls look a lot like me. Also because I had twins I have to pay twice the price for this. It's US$65 for each Report of Birth Abroad, then I also need to get their passports on top of that, which will be another US$82 each. Plus all this needs to be done in MEXICO CITY, with both parents present. It has not been possible for the 4 of us to go to Mexico City together at this point. Which will cost us more money, for travel, food, lodging, we live 6 hours away from Mexico City. Then if I want to take them out of the country. I also have to get them Mexican passports, because the Mexican law requires them to come back into Mexico on a Mexican passport.

JosephP · Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 445

misterbrownpants · Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 70

i just went through the process of resident... in uruguay.. it was LONG and timely.. 9 months in total.. which is guess is fast.. but the circles that i had to go around through were kinda impossible at time..s. but i have my cedula and i am legal which solves lots of problems
and you are you legal in peru? i hear it is more difficult everything there than here?

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Sgt Killjoy · Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 438

Melee, yeah I get you on that about the paperwork. I got my oldest his US passport. My youngest? Not yet, just too much paperwork and the situation was a bit different than my oldest. Basically, my wife lost her passport and can't prove we were in the same location at the same time. Add to that, the ultrasounds and hospital receipts were damaged in a flood. The solution? A couple of dna tests that costs a pretty penny(which I can deal with) and basically deal with embassy BS, which I won't.