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		| teach101 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Banking in Russia |   |  
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				| I wanted to know, how difficult it is to setup an account anywhere within the country? I'm from the USA, and I plan to be there soon.
 What are some of the larger banks there?
 Thanks for any information.
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		| canucktechie 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I guess the question that begs asking is why do you think you need a bank account anyway? You won't be making enough money to save anything (unless you do nothing but work and stay home). 
 Just keep your money back home and use your ATM card if you need extra cash.
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		| teach101 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'd like to put some money away for safe keeping...or is this a naive statement to make   
 
 
 
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	  | Russia does not currently have an efficient banking system. The financial sector suffered heavily as a result of the 1998 financial crisis, when numerous depositors lost their savings, and many banks did not survive. A number of the major banks have allegedly been involved in money laundering scandals, further reducing confidence in the banking sector. 
 Although the sector is now experiencing strong growth, it still remains relatively small, disjointed and poor regulated. There are a very large number of banks throughout the country, but a low level of assets in the sector. It is commonplace for people to have local salaries paid in cash, and not to use the services of banks.
 
 There are a number of foreign banks with branches in Moscow and St Petersburg and most foreign business and employees use these for their local banking needs. However, there are very few foreign banks outside these two cities. Expatriate workers are likely to be asked to provide a copy of their employment contract when opening an account.
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 Upon further investigation, I've found these banks listed online:
 
 http://www.alfabank.com/
 
 http://www.citibank.ru/
 
 http://www.sbrf.ru/eng/default.htm
 
 http://www.en.mmbank.ru/
 
 http://www.raiffeisen.ru/?get-lang&lang=en
 
 http://www.vtb24.ru/
 
 I'm sure there are others, but these were listed as commercial banks.
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		| rogan 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Commercial Banks = there for businesses, not for private punters. 
 I remember in '98 a gun toting student  beseaching me to put my $ savings into his bank - 2 days later his bank was closed and he and all the deposited money had disappeared.
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		| demoiselle 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I would look into whether you can arrange to have your payments electronically deposited into your home account, in America. I don't know if you can. I have found that the Citibank Russia system is not hooked into the Citibank USA system. 
 However, if I start making money here, I'll be trying my hardest to get my income into a non-Russian bank. The number of banks on every corner here is a bit nerve-wracking. Plus, so many of them seem to have names like "Gas-prom Bank" and "Oil-Money Trust" and "BigCompanyBigName Give Us Money Inc..." -- I don't feel inspired with trust.
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		| canucktechie 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There would be high overhead costs in wiring your salary to your US bank, and then more overhead to get it out at a Russian ATM. It seems completely pointless to me. Sure it makes some sense if you're getting an "expat" salary, but not an EFL teacher's. 
 In terms of cost-effectiveness and overall risk I think it just makes more sense to hide the money somewhere in your apartment provided you don't have more than $1000 or so, and I don't think it's likely you'll exceed this if you have any kind of social life.
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		| demoiselle 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: good point! |   |  
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				| Thanks for the good point about wire transfers etc. |  | 
	
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		| JessInRussia 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hiya 
 You can do it, but it costs a bit. Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about.
 
 As far as my experience is concerned, I opened a bank account for a once-off $60. I come from South Africa, so transferring (almost any amount) costs another $30 each time. So I only do it once I have a lot to transfer, about every two months.
 
 Yes, it costs to transfer the money, but at my school I save loads of cash each month without living on cabbage soup. You just have to work the system. People are forever complaining about their salaries, but you get those in life who complain all day and those who do something about their problems/challenges/concerns.
 
 Jess
 
 PS: Another option I used before I had my account was to ask a friend to transfer it. But then you have to have a trustworthy friend.
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