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TheDelaney



Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Jobs available to non-native speakers? Reply with quote

Hello all,

We're new to the forum, so apologies if this subject has come up before...

We're a couple currently teaching in Moscow who would like to come to Turkey to teach (preferably in Izmir). One of us is a native speaker (with CELTA) with three years teaching experience, and the other is a CELTA qualified non-native speaker with one year's experience. Basically, we were wondering about the opportunities available to us. All the job ads we've seen specify native-speakers only, how rigidly do employers tend to stick to this?

Any information on this would be great Very Happy

Thanks!
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of at least two places in Izmir that employ non-native (and non-Turkish) English teachers. CELTA is an international qualification that attests to your ability to use and teach English. I think you will probably be successful in finding employment here.
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FGT wrote:
CELTA is an international qualification that attests to your ability to use and teach English


That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard.
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dagi



Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your native language? Could you teach that, too?
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TheDelaney



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could teach Russian (having a teaching diploma in Russian too), but presumably the opportunities will be more or less limited to teaching English. If anyone is aware of any schools with websites in Izmir which we could contact, that would be great.

Thanks for the info
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yaramaz



Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EF hires Russian teachers, if you want to teach Russian.
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there is a Russian language course at a certain private university in Izmir .Try http: www.ieu.edu.tr for the website .
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDelaney wrote:
We could teach Russian (having a teaching diploma in Russian too), but presumably the opportunities will be more or less limited to teaching English. If anyone is aware of any schools with websites in Izmir which we could contact, that would be great.

Thanks for the info


Actually a lot of dershanes, especially up in Eminonu, are constantly on the look out for good Russian teachers.
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Doctor on a Helicopter



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
FGT wrote:
CELTA is an international qualification that attests to your ability to use and teach English


That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard.


You must have a chip on your van!
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ref Cambridge ESOL:
Quote:
Who recognises CELTA?

CELTA is accepted throughout the world by organisations which employ English Language teachers. The Cambridge CELTA has been accredited by the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority (QCA) at level 4 on the National Qualifications Framework. Cambridge ESOL also works with international ELT organisations to ensure the acceptance of CELTA globally.

Am I eligible to apply?

Ideally you should:

have a standard of education equivalent to that required for entry into higher education
be aged 20 or over
have a standard of English which will enable you to teach at a range of levels

I stand by my previous comment.
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even as a former CELTA teacher trainer I have to side with Thrifty. RSA UCLES may well claim that... but they are a business. I have observed many many CELTA holders over the years... doesn't mean they could teach..
OK flame away.
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder what S.D and I.W would have to say about that ?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never observed SD but I have observed IW in class and on teacher training programs. He is good. He has an energy about him that the students feed off. .... I still expect the conveyor belt and cuddly toy to appear in his classroom though. Nice to see you......you're my favourite, etc
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Alexius



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, there is a demand for Russian.

And yep, non-native speaking English teachers can find work provided they can cut it (and sometimes even if they can't...). I've had Chechen colleagues, for example. They were fab.
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CELTA is not a guarantee of teaching ability, there is no paper qualification that is. I simply meant that a non-native speaker teacher who took CELTA had proved themselves to be just as able as a native-speaker teacher with the same qualification. If his English were not good enough, he would not have been entered for the CELTA course.

I've seen SD teach. Awesome. Apparently effortless. Minimal input from teacher yet students produce what is required and enjoy the process!
IW is a master of linguistics and is superb at analysing language and dealing with pronunciation issues.
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