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EllBee



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Location: Kobe

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: kobe? thoughts? Reply with quote

What would I expect in Kobe? Are there alot of foreigners there, and fun places to go on the weekends? How does the experience in Kobe compare to Osaka?
How long of a ride is it to Osaka?
thx
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, in Kobe you can get to places by walking but in Osaka you will need to take a train (or ride a bike).
Kobe has enough stuff to do.
Many foreign companies are there.

To get to Osaka you can take JR, Hankyu or Hanshin.
It depends where you are going. Do you mean from Sannomiya to Umeda?
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EllBee



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm..dont know...just mean generally 30 mins or so?

How far are beaches from Kobe?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 minutes or less.
For beaches, go to Wakayama.
Kobe has a busy port, so there isn`t room for beaches for swimming.

here are a couple sites:

www.kobecityinfo.com

www.city.kobe.jp/index-e.html
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canuck



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: kobe? thoughts? Reply with quote

EllBee wrote:
What would I expect in Kobe? Are there alot of foreigners there, and fun places to go on the weekends? How does the experience in Kobe compare to Osaka?
How long of a ride is it to Osaka?
thx


Many people really like Kobe because of the international feel. There are many foreigners and lots of fun places to go on weekends.

You need to be more specific than just, "Osaka." Where in Osaka?

From Umeda, it's around 20-30 minutes, depending on what train you take.

From Kawachinagano, it's around 1 hour 20-30 minutes.

From Kita-senri, it's around an hour.

Use this site for train times. http://www.jorudan.co.jp/english/norikae/

If you want to go to the beach, and you're determined go around Kobe, check out Suma, about 40-45 minutes from Umeda.
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Zzonkmiles



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kobe is about half the size of Osaka, but it is still a large city.

It is a very artsy city with lots of bars and restaurants. There's a very active music scene in Kobe as well. If you're into jazz music, you will not be disappointed.

Kobe itself has about 1.3 million people and benefits from a subway system, a bus system, JR/Hankyu/Hanshin train lines, and a Shinkansen station. It takes about 25-30 minutes to get from Sannomiya to Umeda by the fastest train.

There's a lot of fun stuff to do in Kobe and good shopping there too, so don't feel like you absolutely have to be based in Osaka. Many foreigners seem to think that if you're not in Osaka, you're missing out on something, which is not necessarily true.

Last train from Umeda to Sannomiya leaves at about 12:30am.
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Zzonkmiles



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also add that the foreigner presence in Kobe is quite high. I actually think Kobe has a higher percentage of foreigners than Osaka does. The levels of English support are similar.

Regarding places to hang out, Kobe's main fun districts are Sannomiya and Motomachi. Osaka's main entertainment districts are Namba/Shinsaibashi and Kitashinchi/Umeda. You should be able to find whatever you need in both cities.

One last thing. Osaka is pretty spread out and has a huge variety of living conditions. There are some places in Osaka that are pretty far away from the main downtown area that you could never pay me enough money to live in (especially southern and southeastern Osaka). It really depends a lot on which neighborhood you're talking about. If it's a craphole like Shin Imamiya or Nagahara, then forget it.

Oh, and remember that there are many suburbs between Kobe and Osaka that also might be worth checking out, such as Itami, Kawanishi-Ikeda, Ashiya, Nishinomiya, Takarazuka, Toyonaka, and Ishibashi.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like Kobe. It has pretty every thing you need. If I could choose anywhere to live in Japan, I'd live in Kobe.
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seanmcginty



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Kobe is a great city. I lived in Himeji and Akashi, right next door for about 5 years.

About the beach, I hate to disagree with the above poster but do NOT go to Suma beach. Its the closest beach to Kobe but it is also about the filthiest place on the planet, absolutely covered with garbage and the water is made up of about 90% industrial solvents.

Other than that though Kobe is great. Great nightlife, great shopping, great mountains nearby. From Kobe's main downtown train station (Sannomiya) to Osaka station by JR takes less than half an hour, so that is quite convenient too. You are also less than an hour from Kyoto on the same train line.
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EllBee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your replys, very helpful. Wheres the closest english-service church that I could attend (from kobe)?
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul.

Christianity is forbidden in Japan and any attempt to meet up for Christian worship can lead to expulsion.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
I really like Kobe. It has pretty every thing you need. If I could choose anywhere to live in Japan, I'd live in Kobe.



That's why I like reading these boards. Always interesting to see what and why other people people think about stuff. See, I hate Kobe. More than just my general dislike for large cities, there's something about Kobe that makes me want to go on a murder spree in the place. The gaijin ghettos in particular seem to wind me right up. It's the only place where I've almost actually started a fight with someone just so I could smack the crap out of them. The bizarre thing is that I know other people with the same feeling about the place and none of us can work out what it is about the place.

Ain't humans fun? Smile
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EllBee wrote:
thanks for your replys, very helpful. Wheres the closest english-service church that I could attend (from kobe)?


There are quite a few. PM me if you like.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
EllBee wrote:
thanks for your replys, very helpful. Wheres the closest english-service church that I could attend (from kobe)?


There are quite a few. PM me if you like.
Oh Gordon, there you go spoiling all the fun.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stillnosheep wrote:
Gordon wrote:
EllBee wrote:
thanks for your replys, very helpful. Wheres the closest english-service church that I could attend (from kobe)?


There are quite a few. PM me if you like.
Oh Gordon, there you go spoiling all the fun.


Party pooper, I know. Maybe she believed you.
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