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Some questions regarding teaching in Zhuhai

 
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ChrisInCanada



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Some questions regarding teaching in Zhuhai Reply with quote

I'm 27 years old and I recently graduated from college with an Associate of Arts Degree in Criminology and I am about to be TESL certified. I hope to go to China to experience its culture and language while I support myself by teaching English.

Zhuhai looks incredible from the pictures I've seen and Mandarin is apparently their main dialect, which is important to me. My questions are, for anyone who has lived or who is currently living in Zhuhai, what schools would you recommend? Do you know any that are looking for English teachers and if so, can you direct me to their websites? Any connections would be extremely helpful.

Will it be difficult to find work with my lack of teaching experience and when I return from China, I plan to be a police officer, so it's important that I work legally since I can not risk deportation. Will having a 2year degree + TESL allow me to get a legal working visa in Zhuhai?

I think thats about it

Thank you for your time
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While Zhuhai is photogenic on pictures it isn't a holiday destination. It's failry well developed, yet has preserved green lungs within the urban sprawl; it's devoid of cultural sites of interest and it has virtually nothing that represents traditional China.
I assume you are not interested in working in a school but in atraining centre; the best-known ones are TPR, Fountain, Royal, Santana. EF is in the town too, I suppose.
I don't actually live in Zhuhai but have visited it uncounted times over the years en route to or from nearby Macau or Jiangmen. These neighbours make living in Zhuhai interesting; Zhuhai itself can be kind of boring.
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TravellingAround



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Some questions regarding teaching in Zhuhai Reply with quote

ChrisInCanada wrote:

Zhuhai looks incredible from the pictures I've seen and Mandarin is apparently their main dialect, which is important to me.


Nope it is still in Guangdong so Cantonese is the main dialect. Mandarin will be widely spoken however. Loads of migrant workers as there are throughout all cities in Guangdong.

Steppenwolf is right - Zhuhai is a nice enough place but there really isn't that much to do in the city itself. It is, however, within easy travelling distance of Macau, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Macau (among other places) so is well situated. They even have beaches too...
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joey2001



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Some questions regarding teaching in Zhuhai Reply with quote

TravellingAround wrote:

Nope it is still in Guangdong so Cantonese is the main dialect. Mandarin will be widely spoken however. Loads of migrant workers as there are throughout all cities in Guangdong.


I'm not sure about that. From what I hear, the migrant population of Zhuhai outnumbers the local Cantonese speakers by far. Zhuhai was just a small fishing village a few decades ago. So most residents are non-native. You'll have no trouble at all communicating in Mandarin.
By mainland standards, Zhuhai is not a bad place to live. It's less polluted, safer and less crowded than other Pearl River delta cities. Also its location is very convenient, right next to Macau and not far from Hong Kong.
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like over in Shenzhen - the RESIDENT Cantonese-speaking native population is numerically insignificant; you won't need Cantonese at all. And of the natives, some have migrated away while Cantonese speakers from elsewhere may have moved in. Those local vernaculars tend to be vastly differing from locale to locale so that speakers of two or more different Cantonese varieties won't necessarily speak to each other in Cantonese
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jammish



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A word of caution: I have heard that generally Fountain School is to be avoided like the plague.
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TravellingAround



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steppenwolf wrote:
Like over in Shenzhen - the RESIDENT Cantonese-speaking native population is numerically insignificant; you won't need Cantonese at all. And of the natives, some have migrated away while Cantonese speakers from elsewhere may have moved in. Those local vernaculars tend to be vastly differing from locale to locale so that speakers of two or more different Cantonese varieties won't necessarily speak to each other in Cantonese


That's not what I encountered when I went - there seemed to be more Cantonese speakers than Mandarin both there and in Macau. However I was only there for a week or so in both places and wasn't the one doing most of the talking! It did seem there were less non-Cantonese migrants there than in Shenzhen though.
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Plan B



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been in Zhuhai for over 2 years, and although I agree with much of what has been said already, I must have my two penny's worth.....

Zhuhai is an extremely comfortable place to live, and I always feel a sense of relief when I return here from places such as Shenzhen and Guangzhou. It is indeed a cultural vacuum - but on the otherhand, being one of China's "melting pots" it is a place where you have the opportunity to meet people from all provinces in China.

Despite the fact that the slight majority of people here are probably Cantonese, virtually everyone speaks Mandarin, and it is the Linga Franca over here.

There are plenty of opportunities over here. Unfortunately, the non-exploitative options are limited to those who reside here, and are able to pick and chose.

My advice - land a job at one of the more stable language mills - such as TPR, EF, or Oriental, and use your time to find something more suitable. The best options are probably in the public sector.
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Malsol



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An A.A. degree? Associate of Arts? 2 years of college? Criminology?

What qualifies you to teach anything, particularly English as a Foreign Language?

You want to get paid to be a tourist. China has enough unqualifieds like you already. Stay home. SAFEA requires a B.A. or B.S. at a minimum, plus 3 years teaching experience.

You are just another disaster story waiting to unfold.

Just because you speak English does not mean you can or should teach it.
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