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vallillo1983
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 194
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: why be an ALT |
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can I ask, why work as an ALT if most jobs like interac or RCS offer no or little pay during the holidays?! I heard that it's hard to get work during the summer and winter breaks so how do you survive?
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: why be an ALT |
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vallillo1983 wrote: |
can I ask, why work as an ALT if most jobs like interac or RCS offer no or little pay during the holidays?! I heard that it's hard to get work during the summer and winter breaks so how do you survive?
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If you search the forum you will find that a lot of people have a lot of different reasons for working for dispatch companies. I'm sure you have been here long enough to know that.
But to start with, you can read this:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=45718&highlight=interac |
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Squire22
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 68 Location: Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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Because not all ALT gigs are like Interac or RCS, some do actually pay throughout the vacation periods. One of the reasons I'm an ALT, great vacation time, fully paid, consequently easy for me to survive. |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I'd quite happily take school holidays unpaid over working all year round at an eikawa. It would certainly mean you could see more of Japan than the inside of some pokey little classroom. |
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Alberta605
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 94 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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I was an ALT on the JET program about a decade ago. Experiences differ but from my own experience of JET being an ALT was one long overpaid vacation with long periods of complete inactivity from time to time. Possibly the easiest thing I've ever done in my life.
I have heard that Berlitz has approached the Japanese government to supply ALT's to state schools here.
Should Berlitz get that contract at least the JET ALT will no longer be wearing the borrowed and completely misleading robes of a government employee. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Alberta605 wrote: |
I was an ALT on the JET program about a decade ago. Experiences differ but from my own experience of JET being an ALT was one long overpaid vacation with long periods of complete inactivity from time to time. Possibly the easiest thing I've ever done in my life.
I have heard that Berlitz has approached the Japanese government to supply ALT's to state schools here.
Should Berlitz get that contract at least the JET ALT will no longer be wearing the borrowed and completely misleading robes of a government employee. |
This has been happening all over the country for quite a while now. Dispatch companies and other English conversation schools (e.g. NOVA, ECC, Shane) offer ALT outsourcing services. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Alberta605 wrote: |
I have heard that Berlitz has approached the Japanese government to supply ALT's to state schools here.
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Can't see it happening: Berlitz is not a Japanese company, doesn't have the international infrastructure necessary to supply 3000+ teachers from the required countries every year, and trying to get each and every member organization that goes in to making up CLAIR (all 4000+ of them, plus several Ministries) would be next to impossible IMO. |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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G Cthulhu wrote: |
Alberta605 wrote: |
I have heard that Berlitz has approached the Japanese government to supply ALT's to state schools here.
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Can't see it happening: Berlitz is not a Japanese company, doesn't have the international infrastructure necessary to supply 3000+ teachers from the required countries every year, and trying to get each and every member organization that goes in to making up CLAIR (all 4000+ of them, plus several Ministries) would be next to impossible IMO. |
Berlitz doesn't need to provide 3000 teachers. Most dispatch companies and eikaiwa companies that provide ALTs don't send that many to public schools.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Berlitz started sending some. Everyone else seems to be doing it, why not them? |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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A dispatcher I was with offered 300,000 a month (X12) for ALT work. When your school had no classes you were asked to come to the office and create teaching materials.
Thing is, I saw a restaurant job offering more than that. Am I missing something? |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Yeah.
As a foreigner, what do you think your chances at that restaurant job are? |
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c-way
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 226 Location: Kyoto, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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You might want to also break that restaurant job v. ALT job down to an hourly rate and see how it measures up.
And was that job an unskilled worker position, management, or experienced cook. It seems a little high for unskilled work. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Sweetsee wrote: |
A dispatcher I was with offered 300,000 a month (X12) for ALT work. When your school had no classes you were asked to come to the office and create teaching materials.
Thing is, I saw a restaurant job offering more than that. Am I missing something? |
Was the restaurant job at a place called a "snack"? The people they were looking for may not have been "waitresses", exactly (at least not in the family restaurant sense of the word). |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Carmine Co., Ltd.
Assistant Chef
JPY 200,000 - 350,000/Month, Various Areas, Tokyo
Hall Staff
JPY 250,000 - 350,000/Month, Various Areas, Tokyo
Go figure. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Yeah. We have that kind of thing in Toronto, too. You need appropriate college qualifications for that type of job. Waiters/Hall staff in high end restaurants have often spent a number of years learning their trade (an aspeact of Hospitality, as in the Hospitality/Tourism major at community colleges).
I'm assuming this place isn't really on the same level as Denny's, because places like that pay per hour and are aabaito no shigoto desu ne. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Who knows? I'm checking it out though. Checking out the Ritz, too.
You all have a ripping weekend.
Enjoy,
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